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In which Apple destroys my daughter’s iPad forever

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Re: In which Apple destroys my daughter’s iPad forever

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Post by nailer »

askmike wrote: post #21
ajaygupta2790 wrote: post #19

Not sure if its just me but there is a database connection error "Error establishing a database connection" while opening the site.

That tends to happen when a website gets on the HN frontpage. Try refreshing, eventually that worked for me.

You're just hitting the database with more requests. The only reason it'll work is if the site owner fixes something or, if the capacity doesn't change, your additional requests stop other users from accessing the DB. Just use a cached version and stop hammering the site.

Re: In which Apple destroys my daughter’s iPad forever

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Post by eythian »

TekMol wrote: post #28
znpy wrote: post #20

This is one of the reasons why you should just not buy Apple-branded stuff: such things are designed to be remotely-lockable. With an Android-based device this couldn't happen. Provided that you have a backup of your data, you could just reflash the device, restore your backup and start using the device again. Just don't buy Apple stuff. Between people having assistance denied (example: Linus Sebastian 5 k$ Mac Pro),…

I find it surprising that Linux distributions still don't support iOS devices. Considering how many of these devices are out there. What is the main reason? That it is hard to root them?

When you buy an Apple product, some amount of the money you paid goes towards Apple paying engineers to figure out ways of preventing you doing things like running software they don't approve of on it.

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Post by comboy »

TekMol wrote: post #30
gambiting wrote: post #24

Tbf - I feel really sorry that this happened to him, but on the other hand, I am extremely glad that a once-locked device can never be unlocked by anyone without a purchase receipt. I'm sure it deters the theft of iPhones/iPads at least a bit if they know the device will become completely useless once locked out.

I have carried around laptops and smartphones for decades now. Not a single one was stolen. Even if one was stolen now, what's the average cost of 'Stuff being stolen' over the years? I had Laptops with me since the 90s. For over 20 years. If my iPad Pro gets stolen now, that's $1000 over 20 years = $50/year. I don't mind. I really would love if a Linux distribution would support the iPad so I know I can do with it w…

"30 years I've been driving without a seat belt, not a scratch!"

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Post by t_fatus »

t_fatus wrote: post #4

And this one time, when I updated my iPod touch, and both WiFi and Bluetooth stopped working.

I definitely don't think official software updates could be made not reversible. And worst brick a perfectly fine device. Would love to hear from the ppl downvoting too.

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Post by Nition »

gambiting wrote: post #24

Tbf - I feel really sorry that this happened to him, but on the other hand, I am extremely glad that a once-locked device can never be unlocked by anyone without a purchase receipt. I'm sure it deters the theft of iPhones/iPads at least a bit if they know the device will become completely useless once locked out.

Even if they know the username and password though? A thief shouldn't know your username and password, and if I have the username and password to a device, I expect to be able to get in.

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Post by falsedan »

matthewmacleod wrote: post #55
watwut wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It just seems to be easier and more likely to have tablet locked forever, especially for a child, this way then have it actually stolen. Also, a mean schoolmate can lock kids device forever if the kid is not looking. Which sounds like a good reason not to password protect the device.

That's really only the case if the owner isn't able to show that they own the device, and hasn't set up a password recovery mechanism to demonstrate they own the account. I do feel bad for them, but it's kind of a confluence of a lot of different mistakes that led to this point.

Don't blame the user for poor product decisions.

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Post by nyreed »

sgtmas2006 wrote: post #10
Zekio wrote: post #2

looks like it is stuck in 1970 or so, according the number of minutes in the image Edit: 1972 to be exact

I wonder if you created a network with an SSID and password that matched the original if it would pick it up and update the date? This is what I did with my TV when I lost the remote, so I could add a phone as a remote.

After reboot, all iDevice SSIDs and passwords are encrypted with the device passcode.

This means the iPad can't automatically connect to known networks until the passcode is entered.

Re: In which Apple destroys my daughter’s iPad forever

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Post by sgift »

gaius wrote: post #38
TekMol wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have carried around laptops and smartphones for decades now. Not a single one was stolen. Even if one was stolen now, what's the average cost of 'Stuff being stolen' over the years? I had Laptops with me since the 90s. For over 20 years. If my iPad Pro gets stolen now, that's $1000 over 20 years = $50/year. I don't mind. I really would love if a Linux distribution would support the iPad so I know I can do with it w…

have carried around laptops and smartphones for decades now. Not a single one was stolen Good for you. Meanwhile in London a common crime is for moped riders to snatch phones out of people’s hands. Sometimes there’s a passenger on board who will also spray the victim with acid. Maybe you would mind that?

Yeah, I mind that. The solution is an effective police force. Maybe you've heard of it.

Re: In which Apple destroys my daughter’s iPad forever

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Post by falsedan »

xHopen wrote: post #59
raverbashing wrote: post #43

From an usability point of view, yes it sucks From a security point of view, they're absolutely doing the correct thing, though account lock-outs also allow for denial-of-service attacks Maybe we need to not lock people out of their personal iPads forever (just make the person wait 30s between attempts) and if you want stronger security then you actually enable it (because people who want that are "smart enough" to s…

I think Apple is doing the right thing. The error lays in the user, a) don't rememebr my security questions .... eh well... B) Apple provides ways to restore everything, two factor, email recovery etc etc, if you didn't take care of your own security for 7 years, what are you crying about? Sometimes I don't get users.

Don't blame the user for poor product decisions.
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