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In which Apple destroys my daughter’s iPad forever

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Not sure if its just me but there is a database connection error "Error establishing a database connection" while opening the site.

That tends to happen when a website gets on the HN frontpage. Try refreshing, eventually that worked for me.

Re: In which Apple destroys my daughter’s iPad forever

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Oh, this is a painful topic.

A couple of years ago my son forgot the (3-digit!) PIN for his iPod touch. He tried various possibilities, with the device responding with increasingly long lockouts between attempts, until it locked him out permanently. I'm not an iOS user and I had no idea it would do that. I am still angry that it did. It wasn't associated with a Mac, so we couldn't unlock it that way.

He eventually shrugged and we ended up resetting the device, but he lost various pictures and videos. He had iCloud backups of some things, but it turned out he had been dismissing "your storage is full" warnings for some time.

Then the next day he came home from school, plonked himself down on the sofa, and without a moment's thought typed in the PIN he had forgotten. Of course it didn't work, as we had reset the device by then.

It still makes me wince but at least, unlike in this story, the device could be reset and reused and we didn't lose access to the iCloud backups that did exist. And ours was just operator error, facilitated by an uncaring machine.

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Tbf - I feel really sorry that this happened to him, but on the other hand, I am extremely glad that a once-locked device can never be unlocked by anyone without a purchase receipt. I'm sure it deters the theft of iPhones/iPads at least a bit if they know the device will become completely useless once locked out.

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This is one of the reasons why you should just not buy Apple-branded stuff: such things are designed to be remotely-lockable. With an Android-based device this couldn't happen. Provided that you have a backup of your data, you could just reflash the device, restore your backup and start using the device again. Just don't buy Apple stuff. Between people having assistance denied (example: Linus Sebastian 5 k$ Mac Pro),…

To me, this is a perfect reason to buy an Apple-branded device - if my device is stolen/lost I want to be able to lock it permanently and forever with absolutely no way to restore it again. Android phones can almost always be overriden and just factory reset even if the system locks out completely. To me, that's a huge downside, not a bonus.

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Destroyed? The account does not work anymore, but the device is doing exactly as told. However i agree any electronic device should have the ability to factory reset. Software lock ins are terrible.

Functionality like this is pretty good to deter theft. If thieves can't easily re-enable bricked devices, black market price is much lower, thus there's less incentive to mug people carrying those devices.

anti-theft should never impact user experience in such negative way. there are different ways to let the user be in control of this anti-theft technology which are much more user friendly and less prone to these kind of situations.

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post #20

This is one of the reasons why you should just not buy Apple-branded stuff: such things are designed to be remotely-lockable. With an Android-based device this couldn't happen. Provided that you have a backup of your data, you could just reflash the device, restore your backup and start using the device again. Just don't buy Apple stuff. Between people having assistance denied (example: Linus Sebastian 5 k$ Mac Pro),…

I find it surprising that Linux distributions still don't support iOS devices. Considering how many of these devices are out there.

What is the main reason? That it is hard to root them?

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post #20

This is one of the reasons why you should just not buy Apple-branded stuff: such things are designed to be remotely-lockable. With an Android-based device this couldn't happen. Provided that you have a backup of your data, you could just reflash the device, restore your backup and start using the device again. Just don't buy Apple stuff. Between people having assistance denied (example: Linus Sebastian 5 k$ Mac Pro),…

I find it surprising that Linux distributions still don't support iOS devices. Considering how many of these devices are out there. What is the main reason? That it is hard to root them?

> What is the main reason? That it is hard to root them?

Imho it's just not worth it. There are a lot of way cheaper phones/tablets that you can get in order to run GNU/Linux.

Why would anybody bother ?

Re: In which Apple destroys my daughter’s iPad forever

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Tbf - I feel really sorry that this happened to him, but on the other hand, I am extremely glad that a once-locked device can never be unlocked by anyone without a purchase receipt. I'm sure it deters the theft of iPhones/iPads at least a bit if they know the device will become completely useless once locked out.

I have carried around laptops and smartphones for decades now. Not a single one was stolen. Even if one was stolen now, what's the average cost of 'Stuff being stolen' over the years?

I had Laptops with me since the 90s. For over 20 years. If my iPad Pro gets stolen now, that's $1000 over 20 years = $50/year. I don't mind.

I really would love if a Linux distribution would support the iPad so I know I can do with it whatever I like forever.

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