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Re: Android P

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Post by ehsankia »

hvidgaard wrote: post #188
crowbahr wrote: post #184

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Fine grained permissions do exist, your phone is simply not being updated to that version. You can update permissions on types of notifications, location, storage, contacts etc. all independently of each other. O is great for that and I assume P will only be better.

There is not fine grained permissions. There is something that is better than it used to be, but fine grained is not what I'd call it. For instance, I believe the following should be possible for photos alone. * Give an app access to only save, not read my photos * Give an app ability to read one specific photo (think upload a photo to facebook) * Take pictures without always having access to the camera. That is fine…

I believe the API for that actually exists, it's just that no app uses it because the UI/UX for that is messy. It's much easier to just requests access to all files.

Re: Android P

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Post by izacus »

hvidgaard wrote: post #188
crowbahr wrote: post #184

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fine grained permissions do exist, your phone is simply not being updated to that version. You can update permissions on types of notifications, location, storage, contacts etc. all independently of each other. O is great for that and I assume P will only be better.

There is not fine grained permissions. There is something that is better than it used to be, but fine grained is not what I'd call it. For instance, I believe the following should be possible for photos alone. * Give an app access to only save, not read my photos * Give an app ability to read one specific photo (think upload a photo to facebook) * Take pictures without always having access to the camera. That is fine…

All of those options exists and are implemented - apps can invoke OS photo picker which exposes a single photo. Apps can store photos to storage without requesting read access to other directories. Apps can request a photo intent which opens camera without exposing anything to them.

You just choose to use apps which instead request you give them permissions to whole photo storage.

Re: Android P

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Post by izacus »

saon wrote: post #64
rtpg wrote: post #61

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I don't understand this request? Apps are sandboxed, and there's relatively granular permission control now. What is this referencing specifically?

this applies only to installed apps from the store, not system apps like googles or oem apps. you cant disable background activity of any apps. dont want an always listening ai helper from google? too bad for you.

Just turn it off. There's a literal setting for that and it directly asks you to enable it when you set up your phone for the first time.

Please stop spreading FUD :(

Re: Android P

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Post by izacus »

angry_octet wrote: post #137
TheForumTroll wrote: post #81

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Root, remove, unroot.

Is it unreasonable to hope that the default configuration used by 99% of users won't shout your personal data all over the internet?

No it's not and the default configuration doesn't do that at all.

Re: Android P

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Post by izacus »

untog wrote: post #132
lern_too_spel wrote: post #95

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Just don't use them. Unlike in iOS, you can replace all those apps with other apps that you prefer. No rooting or jailbreaking required. If you don't like Google Assistant, you can use Alexa or Cortana or something entirely different. If you don't like Siri on iOS, tough luck. https://www.theverge.com/2018/5/7/17328758/amazon-alexa-defa...

Not true these days. If you want to use location, the app has to use Google Location Services. No matter what the final app is.

This is simply not true. LocationManager API works well still.

Re: Android P

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Post by izacus »

pjmlp wrote: post #182
izacus wrote: post #47

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Treble requires SoC vendors to provide drivers with explicit support. SoCs from Nexus devices aren't supported by Qualcomm so they simply can't be upgraded.

That is why there is this thing called legal agreements. If Google actually cared, they would impose support requirements on OEMs that wanted to play on Android playground.

And they did. It's called Project Treble.

Re: Android P

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Post by nevir »

ocdtrekkie wrote: post #159
dyarosla wrote: post #146

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Apple is known to shamelessly copy features that work and are consumer friendly- I have no doubt that they'll be keeping a close eye on how consumers respond to these updates.

This is ironic given that Android P lifted iPhone X navigation and is adding support for notches, also lifted from the iPhone X.

and iPhone X navigation is eerily similar to WebOS' cards paradigm. Everyone copies everyone.

Re: Android P

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Post by what_ever »

anotheryou wrote: post #27

they call "frequently used" machine learning now? I expected something fancier...

Except that it's not just frequently used as described. It also takes into consideration what apps you use at a specific time, location, day.
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