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How Mapbox Is Winning Over Developers to Challenge Google's Mapping Dominance

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Re: How Mapbox Is Winning Over Developers to Challenge Google's Mapping Dominance

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Am I crazy, I can't see a live demo page.

You're not crazy. Go to products -> maps, click on one of the themes, click on View live map. Like this one for example https://www.mapbox.com/maps/streets/ It's like they don't want to show it.

I love this thread. I have not one but two tickets asking we elevate the actual maps - I'm going to tap it again! Stay tuned for a nice redesign shortly that hopefully pulls them front and center.

Note - I work at Mapbox.

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"Every time you touch the map, the map is learning," Gundersen says. "It's that flywheel." Curious quote. A flywheel stores energy. What does that have to do with a system learning as it's used? Also curious phrasing. "That flywheel"? Which flywheel?

I suspect it is a reference to "The Flywheel Effect" espoused by business author Jim Collins: https://www.jimcollins.com/concepts/the-flywheel.html I'm not an expert, and I'm not sure that this in fact a valid interpretation of that concept, but I know that it's a popular concept in certain business circles.

Amazon is also keen on the "flywheel" terminology:

http://www.samseely.com/blog/2016/5/2/the-amazon-flywheel-pa...

Re: How Mapbox Is Winning Over Developers to Challenge Google's Mapping Dominance

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Hmmm I evaluated a lot of those (mainly OSM-based) geocoders recently. Unfortunately the quality of results is orders of magnitude worse than Google. The only ones that even came close were Mapbox, Mapquest and Here.

Hi, co-founder of OpenCage here. It depends heavily on what your use case is: forward or reverse, which part of the world, what level of granularity, etc. Google offers a great geocoding service, no doubt. But you also have to pay their price, and obey their terms and conditions. Their great service is overkill for many very common use cases, at least those that we see from our customers. Anyone who wants to try us o…

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Re: How Mapbox Is Winning Over Developers to Challenge Google's Mapping Dominance

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Have you evaluated SRTM (or some patched up derivative) for your latter use case?

Yeah, its unfortunately missing a lot of alaska. But the main problem is I have no idea how to reproject it into web-mercator and generate usable tiles from it.

https://github.com/andrewharvey/srtm-stylesheets might help

(Full disclose I'm the author)

Re: How Mapbox Is Winning Over Developers to Challenge Google's Mapping Dominance

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Sure but I have no expertise on how to take those files and turn them into a tiles that correspond with the same basemap image tiles. Also ideally the service would incorporate more than just SRTM, including for example the USGS high res DEM where available.

Same boat, but does this help at all? https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/SRTM

This is just what the comments you replied to were discussing

Re: How Mapbox Is Winning Over Developers to Challenge Google's Mapping Dominance

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More crucially, they are winning over executives of medium-to-large internet businesses with superior sales and marketing. Individual engineers at these places do not have the power to make decisions about which map software to use, which are often six- or seven-figure contracts. Mapbox offers a service that is comparable to Google Maps in terms of price, quality and flexibility. From a technical standpoint, there ar…

Papa johns was (is?) paying for mapquest purely for the privilege of calling up the noc every few days when their servers crashed. At least it felt like that when I worked in the noc.

Re: How Mapbox Is Winning Over Developers to Challenge Google's Mapping Dominance

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More crucially, they are winning over executives of medium-to-large internet businesses with superior sales and marketing. Individual engineers at these places do not have the power to make decisions about which map software to use, which are often six- or seven-figure contracts. Mapbox offers a service that is comparable to Google Maps in terms of price, quality and flexibility. From a technical standpoint, there ar…

Out of curiosity, did you have a paid support plan for Google Maps, or what are you basing your impressions of their support on?

Also, part of the Google Maps Platform launch is that support (as in, being able to file tickets and get answers) will be extended to all users: https://mapsplatform.googleblog.com/2018/05/introducing-goog...

Disclaimer: I used to work on Maps Support at Google.

Re: How Mapbox Is Winning Over Developers to Challenge Google's Mapping Dominance

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More crucially, they are winning over executives of medium-to-large internet businesses with superior sales and marketing. Individual engineers at these places do not have the power to make decisions about which map software to use, which are often six- or seven-figure contracts. Mapbox offers a service that is comparable to Google Maps in terms of price, quality and flexibility. From a technical standpoint, there ar…

Papa johns was (is?) paying for mapquest purely for the privilege of calling up the noc every few days when their servers crashed. At least it felt like that when I worked in the noc.

what is noc?

Re: How Mapbox Is Winning Over Developers to Challenge Google's Mapping Dominance

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Am I crazy, I can't see a live demo page.

You're not crazy. Go to products -> maps, click on one of the themes, click on View live map. Like this one for example https://www.mapbox.com/maps/streets/ It's like they don't want to show it.

Damn it's actually kind of breathtaking how responsive and smooth the zooming and scrolling is on that compared to Google Maps.

Also since I'm a Safari user I figured I'd try Google Maps in Chrome as well to see if Google Maps' lag was due to Safari and nope, Chrome is actually way laggier than Safari.

Re: How Mapbox Is Winning Over Developers to Challenge Google's Mapping Dominance

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There are more alternatives to Google & Mapbox that mostly use OpenStreetMap as a backing data source: https://openmaptiles.org (only map tiles) https://stadiamaps.com (map tiles, static maps & routing) https://www.thunderforest.com (only maps) https://geocoder.opencagedata.com (only geocoding) https://geocode.earth (only geocoding) A laundry listing: https://switch2osm.org/providers/ Tile providers are very thankful…

Is there anyone providing free high-res satellite tiles?
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