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Re: Impersonators who are paid to flirt on dating apps

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Post by humanrebar »

jessriedel wrote: post #36
noobermin wrote: post #24

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Is this really true? I find in my own experience that men want sex more than women is a stereotype of sorts. That women are more selective than men is a distinct observation but I'm not so sure how true that is either and how much of it is merely due to traditional gender roles.

The evidence of a stronger male sex drive is overwhelming. ”The sex drive refers to the strength of sexual motivation. Across many different studies and measures, men have been shown to have more frequent and more intense sexual desires than women, as reflected in spontaneous thoughts about sex, frequency and variety of sexual fantasies, desired frequency of intercourse, desired number of partners, masturbation, liki…

We need new studies on the subject, but in the context of internet pornography. Given pornography consumption, are there changes in the relative sex drives of men and women?

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Post by bartread »

pc86 wrote: post #149
bartread wrote: post #104

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And on that note I'll be cancelling my dating site subscriptions immediately.

The world mourns.

Hmm. I'm not sure why my comment above is getting downvotes. It seems like a perfectly rational response to the very interesting insider revelation posted by the parent.

To be honest I'd suspected this for a while based on conversations with female friends, and had therefore considered shutting down the relevant accounts. Now I've had it confirmed, it's simply provided the push I needed: why continue to do something that's mostly an unsatisfying waste of time when I could spend that time on something more interesting instead?

And, whilst I realise you were being sarcastic, what's to mourn for anyone? Certainly nothing for me.

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Post by pc86 »

spodek wrote: post #144

HN being mostly male and as a guy, I've seen this discussion on the frustrations of online dating and how the system evolves many times. Are there similar threads in mostly female communities to see their perspective?

Any mostly female community on the internet inevitably gets overrun with men trying to provide their perspective. /r/twoxchromosomes on Reddit is now 75-80% male in the comments, or more.

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Post by l1ska »

baron816 wrote: post #73
aphextron wrote: post #44

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I worked for $large_dating_site for a number of years. The real genius of Tinder was giving women the power. We came to the same realization as well: that no matter how bad you make the user experience for men, they will use the app endlessly if real women are there. Online dating business models are exclusively based around enticing men with sex, and giving women the power to choose precisely who they want.

What I’ve long wondered is how women react in the real world now that they have all the power on dating apps. Why would they try to find a date in any other way? There were a few articles that came out a few years ago arguing that, no, dating apps were terrible for women because it makes men even more noncommittal with such easy access to dates. My hypothesis was that the women they interviewed for those pieces were…

Perhaps experience for finding dates through dating apps is similar to finding dates in night clubs. I wonder , if percieved level of anonymity (chances are you will not run into that person in your daily life) and appearance of abundance (if this person is not ideal, we are quick to move on), makes one less accountable (hence prominence of ghosting). Apps give perception that you get to know the person before going on a date, setting it apart from meeting a random person in a nightclub and appealing to women. But the flip side is that those dates don't carry the same level of obligation to another human being as meeting a date though friends/school/work would have, hence carry potential for highly unpleasant experience for women. So, perhaps it's not about elite group of men, but about level of risk taking that makes women uncomfortable.

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Post by spodek »

pc86 wrote: post #153
spodek wrote: post #144

HN being mostly male and as a guy, I've seen this discussion on the frustrations of online dating and how the system evolves many times. Are there similar threads in mostly female communities to see their perspective?

Any mostly female community on the internet inevitably gets overrun with men trying to provide their perspective. /r/twoxchromosomes on Reddit is now 75-80% male in the comments, or more.

Sounds like the boy scouts in real life. It seems to happen in both directions.

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Post by gerbilly »

6cd6beb wrote: post #26

I figured something like this would exist, but I don't think it's very useful. I've walked the dark path of trying to implement "pickup artist" material(can't imagine that'll be received well), and I can say that: A) an objective approach works (if you're humble and willing to recognize/adjust for failure) B) there's a torrent of snake oil out there C) you learn a lot when you try this stuff. A lot. A lot of that mat…

I think the real "strategy" is to be comfortable being alone and to meet people in real life.

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Post by vinceguidry »

I wonder if dating is one of the few arenas of human life in which tools and services to make it easier create invariably bad ethics. When you boil it all down, mating is an adversarial process dressed up as a cooperative one, making deception the order of the day. Tools and services, even with the best of intentions, wind up only serving those deceptive purposes.

In my own life, despite being an uber-introverted nerd, I've gravitated towards just the normal way of finding people I'm interested in in person and just asking them out. The advantage of this is feedback is much easier to intuit when the person you're asking out is right there in front of you.

I don't really see the point anymore in spending large amounts of time and effort to optimize a algorithmic online search pattern when daily life in a city gives one all the bandwidth one could ever need to find someone.

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Post by paulddraper »

chillacy wrote: post #81
baron816 wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What I’ve long wondered is how women react in the real world now that they have all the power on dating apps. Why would they try to find a date in any other way? There were a few articles that came out a few years ago arguing that, no, dating apps were terrible for women because it makes men even more noncommittal with such easy access to dates. My hypothesis was that the women they interviewed for those pieces were…

That's historically the case: https://www.theguardian.com/science/2014/sep/24/women-men-dn... The other implication of polygamy is that a lot of men simply didn't have a chance to pass on their genes at all.

Related to this, as a bit of cause and a bit of effect, is that std deviation intelligence/posperity/success is significantly wider for males.

Mentally ill people and geniuses are overwhelmingly male.

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Post by fapjacks »

Double_a_92 wrote: post #107
aphextron wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I worked for $large_dating_site for a number of years. The real genius of Tinder was giving women the power. We came to the same realization as well: that no matter how bad you make the user experience for men, they will use the app endlessly if real women are there. Online dating business models are exclusively based around enticing men with sex, and giving women the power to choose precisely who they want.

> they will use the app endlessly if real women are there Do they actually? I've spoken to many men and those apps don't seem to work at all. Usually gets deleted after a few days of usage. Like what's the point of being there if absolutely noone wants to write?

Hmm. Tinder and Bumble both absolutely work. I'm kinda old, but I've used them and two of my best friends have used them, and we've all had pretty great success achieving our goals through the apps. I would definitely say that these apps work well.
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