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Re: Impersonators who are paid to flirt on dating apps

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Post by chrischen » Fri, Apr 27, 2018, 8:23 AM UTC

legionof7 wrote: post #63

kevin_thibedeau wrote: post #42

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> Guess it's the Same for good looking to hot str8 guys. Unless you don't meet the minimum height requirement. That's more important than looks.

I honestly feel that IRL, height is less important than a lot of people think. I'm a 5'5 man.

It is ultimately superficial once someone knows more about you, but that doesn't stop people from setting it as their pre-filter before they see what they truly want.

You ask people to improve the carriage, they'll tell you to make a faster horse. If you ask a woman what they want, they'll tell you tall dark and handsome.

Re: Impersonators who are paid to flirt on dating apps

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Post by tomcooks » Fri, Apr 27, 2018, 8:32 AM UTC

alexashka wrote: post #66

laurieg wrote: post #2

It is very informative to make a an online dating profile of the opposite gender. I'm a man, but when I made an account on tinder with a female friend's pictures I was blown away by just how radically different the experience was. Almost every person would match with me. Everyone would message me straight away. If I didn't reply most would message again in a few hours. A few would get very angry/upset that I didn't r…

Real stroke of genius would be making prostitution legal, and family a big deal. It'd solve men's natural urges, and women's constant insecurity that they're going to be abandoned, once they get wrinkles. It'd remove so much undisclosed resentment and tension within families and society. It'd free up people involved in billions upon billions of dollars worth of industry, to do something useful, instead of preying on…

You mean something like southern Europe 40 years ago.

Wasn't that ideal, for what concerned family and societal tensions.

Re: Impersonators who are paid to flirt on dating apps

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Post by csa » Fri, Apr 27, 2018, 8:45 AM UTC

orcdork wrote: post #98

tajen wrote: post #90

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No, it’s rather devastating for female sanity. It gives them the illusion of choice, and many women build false expectations, feeling that they could settle with any of those Don Juans, which is false. When they hit the wall at 30, they start noticing that the top 10% men keep dating the younger ones, and they’ll never be able to settle with a Perfect Man anymore. Enters depression and weight gain and they settle wit…

What a bunch of redpill bullshit.

While I disagree with a lot of the specifics of what tajen said, I can definitely say that I have a lot of female friends and acquaintances who conflate “men they can casually date due to dating apps” with “men they have a chance of marrying”.

They always wonder why they seem to get ghosted or why their dream guy ends up “cheating” on them. It’s not really a mystery from my point of view.

Re: Impersonators who are paid to flirt on dating apps

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Post by bartread » Fri, Apr 27, 2018, 8:51 AM UTC

aphextron wrote: post #44

laurieg wrote: post #2

It is very informative to make a an online dating profile of the opposite gender. I'm a man, but when I made an account on tinder with a female friend's pictures I was blown away by just how radically different the experience was. Almost every person would match with me. Everyone would message me straight away. If I didn't reply most would message again in a few hours. A few would get very angry/upset that I didn't r…

I worked for $large_dating_site for a number of years. The real genius of Tinder was giving women the power. We came to the same realization as well: that no matter how bad you make the user experience for men, they will use the app endlessly if real women are there. Online dating business models are exclusively based around enticing men with sex, and giving women the power to choose precisely who they want.

And on that note I'll be cancelling my dating site subscriptions immediately.

Re: Impersonators who are paid to flirt on dating apps

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Post by Double_a_92 » Fri, Apr 27, 2018, 8:54 AM UTC

laurieg wrote: post #2

It is very informative to make a an online dating profile of the opposite gender. I'm a man, but when I made an account on tinder with a female friend's pictures I was blown away by just how radically different the experience was. Almost every person would match with me. Everyone would message me straight away. If I didn't reply most would message again in a few hours. A few would get very angry/upset that I didn't r…

> Men shotgun and women pick and choose.

The problem is that that is a vicious cycle. The more men shotgun the more women have to be picky. So nobody answers and man have to write to even more women...

Usually this get's "fixed" by limiting the amount of messages men can send. But that doesn't really work.

There should be a system that "punishes" women for being picky and men for being desperate. Maybe publicly show the ratio of received/sent messages, or so?

Re: Impersonators who are paid to flirt on dating apps

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Post by ggm » Fri, Apr 27, 2018, 8:56 AM UTC

DoctorOetker wrote: post #64

flamtap wrote: post #4

Sexism aside, the morality of this service is interesting. What if this service was involved in a match, and some time later the couple married?

simply keep up the appearance that everything was "sincere" from the get go?

Ah yes, because relationships founded on white lies are the best ones.

Re: Impersonators who are paid to flirt on dating apps

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Post by Double_a_92 » Fri, Apr 27, 2018, 8:56 AM UTC

aphextron wrote: post #44

laurieg wrote: post #2

It is very informative to make a an online dating profile of the opposite gender. I'm a man, but when I made an account on tinder with a female friend's pictures I was blown away by just how radically different the experience was. Almost every person would match with me. Everyone would message me straight away. If I didn't reply most would message again in a few hours. A few would get very angry/upset that I didn't r…

I worked for $large_dating_site for a number of years. The real genius of Tinder was giving women the power. We came to the same realization as well: that no matter how bad you make the user experience for men, they will use the app endlessly if real women are there. Online dating business models are exclusively based around enticing men with sex, and giving women the power to choose precisely who they want.

> they will use the app endlessly if real women are there

Do they actually? I've spoken to many men and those apps don't seem to work at all. Usually gets deleted after a few days of usage. Like what's the point of being there if absolutely noone wants to write?

Re: Impersonators who are paid to flirt on dating apps

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Post by ulkram » Fri, Apr 27, 2018, 8:58 AM UTC

tomcooks wrote: post #102

alexashka wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Real stroke of genius would be making prostitution legal, and family a big deal. It'd solve men's natural urges, and women's constant insecurity that they're going to be abandoned, once they get wrinkles. It'd remove so much undisclosed resentment and tension within families and society. It'd free up people involved in billions upon billions of dollars worth of industry, to do something useful, instead of preying on…

You mean something like southern Europe 40 years ago. Wasn't that ideal, for what concerned family and societal tensions.

could you clarify your point. I'm interested, but this is all I could find:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_in_Europe

Re: Impersonators who are paid to flirt on dating apps

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Post by pizza234 » Fri, Apr 27, 2018, 8:59 AM UTC

baron816 wrote: post #73

aphextron wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I worked for $large_dating_site for a number of years. The real genius of Tinder was giving women the power. We came to the same realization as well: that no matter how bad you make the user experience for men, they will use the app endlessly if real women are there. Online dating business models are exclusively based around enticing men with sex, and giving women the power to choose precisely who they want.

What I’ve long wondered is how women react in the real world now that they have all the power on dating apps. Why would they try to find a date in any other way? There were a few articles that came out a few years ago arguing that, no, dating apps were terrible for women because it makes men even more noncommittal with such easy access to dates. My hypothesis was that the women they interviewed for those pieces were…

> What I’ve long wondered is how women react in the real world now that they have all the power on dating apps

Women always had that specific kind of power in real world. When/if you go to a party, observe the people who are alone, standing against a wall; they're invariably men, without absolutely no exception. This says everything about power.

Having said that, bear in mind that this kind of power is only a (arguably small) part of relationships between the sexes. It says a lot, but it's still a (small) part.

> Why would they try to find a date in any other way?

Because the dating medium strongly correlates with the interest of the people involved. Not everybody's looking for the Tinder type of relationship.

"Before Tinder", one would just go to a nightclub. It's exactly the same experience; and for the same reason, not everybody goes to nightclubs.

Re: Impersonators who are paid to flirt on dating apps

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Post by golergka » Fri, Apr 27, 2018, 8:59 AM UTC

> This messaging “blast” technique may appear lucrative compared to the average neighborhood yenta, but it has occurred to me that good matchmaking may not be in the company’s financial interest. When a client pairs up, they leave the service.

This is only true if client is looking for a long-term monogamous relationship.