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A Lengthy, Pedantic Review of Ubuntu 18.04 LTS (Bionic Beaver)

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Re: A Lengthy, Pedantic Review of Ubuntu 18.04 LTS (Bionic Beaver)

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Post by yellowapple »

unethical_ban wrote: post #226
Karunamon wrote: post #25

It seems like none of the dumb GNOME warts were plastered over. There's still the idiotic, screen-taking-over activities menu (because, yknow, it should take 3840x2160 pixels to show a fucking app launcher. Did nobody learn from Windows 8? The GNOME devs are officially more hard-headed than Microsoft - an achievement of some note) There's still the swipe-to-unlock desktop There's the default Apple scrolling behavior…

>There's the default Apple scrolling behavior Everyone has preferences, but the "apple" behavior makes so much sense. It's the first thing I change when I install a laptop OS.

I use the default scroll direction (down is down, up is up) with mouse wheels, but invert it for touchpads. It just feels more correct; with the wheel, it feels like the bottom of the wheel is the thing moving the page up, while with the touchpad it feels like it should be moving the page directly.

Works almost perfectly. The only problem is the Slack desktop app (which inexplicably ignores the settings for literally every other Linux desktop app and fails to invert my touchpad scrolling).

Re: A Lengthy, Pedantic Review of Ubuntu 18.04 LTS (Bionic Beaver)

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Post by yellowapple »

IAmEveryone wrote: post #193
RightMillennial wrote: post #180

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is a deliberate mischaracterization of the OP's comment. It in no way implies that the software is poor because of women. The outreach program is political, and is rather discriminatory and sexist.

Targeted programs to increase diversity are not sexist, in the same way that taking a bank robber’s loot and giving it back is not theft.

"taking a bank robber’s loot and giving it back is not theft."

I mean, that is technically theft. It's just very obviously justified theft in response to a previous theft (assuming you prove beyond a reasonable doubt that it is in fact the bank robber from whom you're taking the money).

Re: A Lengthy, Pedantic Review of Ubuntu 18.04 LTS (Bionic Beaver)

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Post by IAmEveryone »

jake_the_third wrote: post #235
IAmEveryone wrote: post #193

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Targeted programs to increase diversity are not sexist, in the same way that taking a bank robber’s loot and giving it back is not theft.

Your analogy makes no sense to me. When evaluating applicants, the only metrics used should be how well the applicant can do his or her job. Giving applicants preference for having some blessed sex or political leanings is generally a recipe for disaster.

To explain: certain groups are underrepresented in sought-after professions, at colleges, etc. It is rather widely agreed that this is a result of historical injustices, such as racist or sexist policies and habits not allowing women or non-whites to study at colleges, or get certain jobs.

That is the bank robbery: these groups were robbed of opportunity.

The remedial measures are programs such as the one discussed here, or affirmative action for college admission.

That is "taking the money from the robber, and giving it back to the bank".

The analogy is that the last action does fit your everyday definition of something bad: you are not supposed to take a bag of money from someone against their will. You are not supposed to make employment or acceptance decicions based on sex or race.

Yet, quite obviously, it's stupid to look at those actions in isolation. You have to zoom out, and you'll see: it wasn't his money in the beginning.

That's the analogy, just in case your ignorance was genuine.

Re: A Lengthy, Pedantic Review of Ubuntu 18.04 LTS (Bionic Beaver)

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Post by yellowapple »

unixhero wrote: post #41

Any news on Powermac build?

I thought Ubuntu dropped support for PowerPC Macs quite awhile back? I know last time I ended up running Linux on one (my eMac) it was with Debian.

I've since found that OpenBSD runs a lot better on PowerPC Macs anyway.

Re: A Lengthy, Pedantic Review of Ubuntu 18.04 LTS (Bionic Beaver)

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Post by pas »

zby wrote: post #85

What I really want in Linux is some way to kill apps when it gets low on memory and everything gets stuck. I know there is Magic SysRq Key - but I always forget about the keys and also it requires recompiling the kernel.

Disable swap (or reduce it to <100MB), it'll never get slow, the kernel will kill things for you.

Re: A Lengthy, Pedantic Review of Ubuntu 18.04 LTS (Bionic Beaver)

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Post by IAmEveryone »

yellowapple wrote: post #252
IAmEveryone wrote: post #193

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Targeted programs to increase diversity are not sexist, in the same way that taking a bank robber’s loot and giving it back is not theft.

"taking a bank robber’s loot and giving it back is not theft." I mean, that is technically theft. It's just very obviously justified theft in response to a previous theft (assuming you prove beyond a reasonable doubt that it is in fact the bank robber from whom you're taking the money).

It's not. Here's the definition from wikipedia: " theft is the taking of another person's property without that person's permission with the intent to deprive the lawful owner of it"

...but that's really not the point here, is it?

Re: A Lengthy, Pedantic Review of Ubuntu 18.04 LTS (Bionic Beaver)

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Post by yellowapple »

madeel wrote: post #12

A review of common sense. Stop using things built on top of junk. 30 years and still working on building an OS, great we'll be doing this for the next 100 years as well.

"Stop using things built on top of junk"

Indeed; that's why I stopped using Windows :)

Re: A Lengthy, Pedantic Review of Ubuntu 18.04 LTS (Bionic Beaver)

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Post by mankash666 »

" I'm an open source advocate who is incredibly set in my ways and I want the tools that I use to just work. I detest paying for software except when it occupies certain specialized cases or represents something more akin to work of art, such as the video game Portal. But only when it's on sale"

So he's someone who doesn't believe or support the traditional software industry (everyone from Apple to MSFT makes money off the traditional model of paying for value ).

Stopped reading the review there.

Re: A Lengthy, Pedantic Review of Ubuntu 18.04 LTS (Bionic Beaver)

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Post by jasonkostempski »

panarky wrote: post #31

When the display goes to sleep due to lack of input or whatever, you have to drag upwards with your mouse to unlock the screen. Like some common dirty frickin' smart phone. Yes! Dragging a window to the top of the screen maximizes the window. FOR GODS SAKE WHY. Double yes!

Xubuntu, all the benefits of using a popular Linux distro without the UI surprises every few years.
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