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Now Is the Perfect Time for an RSS Renaissance

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Re: Now Is the Perfect Time for an RSS Renaissance

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Post by masivemunkey »

Shank wrote: post #231
originalsimba wrote: post #27

Did anyone else notice how corporations like Twitter and Facebook quietly tried to kill RSS in the past 10 years? RSS is a wonderful technology with embodies the spirit of the Internet. Facebook and Twitter are, by comparison, cancer. I often recommend WordPress to folks as an alternative for blogging, because it is free and has RSS functional out of the box.

I'm a big fan of Feedbin, because it lets you subscribe to any Twitter user's profile as a normal feed and browse it too. It means I can subscribe to 10 or so people I really don't want to miss and get their updates exactly like I would a normal feed. https://feedbin.com/

Love feedbin. I've been using it since Google Reader died and it's been rock solid. Also nice that they have vim-like commands built in.

Re: Now Is the Perfect Time for an RSS Renaissance

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Post by k1m »

jjrh wrote: post #60
disconnected wrote: post #31

"People" keep rattling on about how RSS needs to be revived. Do these people live in some sort of alternative reality where: - The guardian - BBC - Reuters - Ars Technica - LWN - Hacker News and a fuck ton others don't have an RSS feed? Or some sort or reality where Flym (or the myriads of RSS apps) don't exist? Because I sure as hell don't.

Main reason I don't exclusively use RSS (like I used to) is tons and tons of websites just provide a couple lines in the RSS feed and not the entire article. Super annoying.

I work on a service that tries to generate new full-text feeds from these partial ones. You can try it out at http://fivefilters.org/content-only/

Re: Now Is the Perfect Time for an RSS Renaissance

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Post by bhrgunatha »

moolcool wrote: post #299
bhrgunatha wrote: post #160

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or there was a big trend where they only links were to an itunes page which a) requires itunes to be installed because b) there is no direct link for the rss feed. I had to write a scraper to find the underlying rss feed for itunes only podcasts.

Do the iTunes only podcast feeds need auth to access? Would you be willing to open source this?

No need really, I found how to extract the rss feed just by searching:

https://superuser.com/questions/78415/get-rss-feed-from-itun...

Maybe Apple will change/throttle the endpoint in the future but for now it's not authenticated.

Re: Now Is the Perfect Time for an RSS Renaissance

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Post by Spivak »

cocktailpeanuts wrote: post #179
disconnected wrote: post #31

"People" keep rattling on about how RSS needs to be revived. Do these people live in some sort of alternative reality where: - The guardian - BBC - Reuters - Ars Technica - LWN - Hacker News and a fuck ton others don't have an RSS feed? Or some sort or reality where Flym (or the myriads of RSS apps) don't exist? Because I sure as hell don't.

RSS is as alive as www.myspace.com is. Before you point out how RSS powers all kinds of other invisible stuff that most people aren't aware of, that's not what this article is talking about, nor is it what people mean when they say RSS is dead. If you truly believe that RSS has as much influence over consumers in 2018 as a decade or so ago, you probably do live in an alternate reality.

Does it really matter if people actually use RSS when it's available basically everywhere. Your neighbor using Twitter for their news feed doesn't harm you.

Re: Now Is the Perfect Time for an RSS Renaissance

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Post by Spivak »

jjrh wrote: post #60
disconnected wrote: post #31

"People" keep rattling on about how RSS needs to be revived. Do these people live in some sort of alternative reality where: - The guardian - BBC - Reuters - Ars Technica - LWN - Hacker News and a fuck ton others don't have an RSS feed? Or some sort or reality where Flym (or the myriads of RSS apps) don't exist? Because I sure as hell don't.

Main reason I don't exclusively use RSS (like I used to) is tons and tons of websites just provide a couple lines in the RSS feed and not the entire article. Super annoying.

What's the alternative though? The same will be true on all other aggregators.

Re: Now Is the Perfect Time for an RSS Renaissance

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Post by icc97 »

cocktailpeanuts wrote: post #215
reitanqild wrote: post #203

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ars technica provides full rss - to paying readers. The price is reasonable. It's a win-win: they probably earn more on each paying customer than on 10 or 20 adblocking users like us. Paying customers get full uncrippled RSS, no ads and no tracking (I think it's tiered though so you might have to pay slightly more to get all these three).

I would say that's not RSS winning, but more like Ars Technica adding many "premium features" as a bundle to justify the subscription fee. It's like NYTimes providing crossword puzzle for free to subscribed users. You wouldn't call that "It's the perfect time for a crossword puzzle renaissance", would you?

> Ars Technica adding many "premium features" as a bundle to justify the subscription fee.

Personally I think this is fine. If paying for their content encouages them to maintain a quality RSS feed and not track you that seems like a reasonable exchange.

Re: Now Is the Perfect Time for an RSS Renaissance

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Post by Spivak »

VectorLock wrote: post #105
disconnected wrote: post #31

"People" keep rattling on about how RSS needs to be revived. Do these people live in some sort of alternative reality where: - The guardian - BBC - Reuters - Ars Technica - LWN - Hacker News and a fuck ton others don't have an RSS feed? Or some sort or reality where Flym (or the myriads of RSS apps) don't exist? Because I sure as hell don't.

Yes, RSS still exists. So does Myspace.

RSS exists and is ubiquitous on the web outside of a few large players. It doesn't have the consumer mind-share but nothing about that hinders your personal RSS experience.

Re: Now Is the Perfect Time for an RSS Renaissance

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Post by Spivak »

tomcatfish wrote: post #167
unicornporn wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sorry, no. RSS and Atom already does the job. https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/standards.png

Why didn't you link to the comic to allow Munroe to gain views/advertisement revenue/etc.?

Because XKCD doesn't have any of that and he explicitly supports hotlinking?

Re: Now Is the Perfect Time for an RSS Renaissance

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Post by gkya »

Spivak wrote: post #300
zbentley wrote: post #275

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Believe it or not, some people make high-quality content on the internet with the expectation of compensation. The current state of advertising is ethically and technically questionable in many ways. But the idea of advertising as a revenue model is not.

Ethical advertising is pretty much a unicorn. I don't deny that it's possible but I would struggle to find even a single example of it in the wild.

I guess Deck Network was an example of that. Most of the 5-6 ads I intentionally clicked ever was theirs. There were also similar networks like Carbon.

Re: Now Is the Perfect Time for an RSS Renaissance

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Post by dexterdog »

dfee wrote: post #94
jklinger410 wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In regards to your full text request. The publisher has the option what to syndicate, truncated or full. What you are asking them to do is have a crawler go to the site and pull the full text whenever they feel they are being served truncated. Not only does that go against the nature of RSS, but would be costly for them. What app do you pay for that does this? Is it even using RSS?

Quite a few apps provide this. One is called Newsify. I don’t know that it goes against the nature of RSS. I kind of feel that providing only a title of the article and a link goes against the spirit. But nature and spirit are different.

Unfortunately newsify is ios only
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