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Now Is the Perfect Time for an RSS Renaissance

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Re: Now Is the Perfect Time for an RSS Renaissance

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Post by hvidgaard »

cocktailpeanuts wrote: post #181

Anyone who talks about revival of RSS without talking about how it will be sustainable is just ignorant or naive, because the main reason it became what it became has everything to do with money. Content providers centralized because centralized attention is more valuable than aggregation of decentralized attention in an ad driven economy. Just because you want RSS to make a come back doesn't mean it has any chance o…

Podcasts seems to work fine, which is the exact same concept with sound in place of text.

Re: Now Is the Perfect Time for an RSS Renaissance

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Post by JoshMnem »

jeofken wrote: post #196
JoshMnem wrote: post #194

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I got a T460 with i7-6600U CPU @ 2.60GHz. I always research the models online before buying: " ". I'm running Ubuntu 16.04 on it at the moment. The next-day at-home support has been great. They have come to my home and replaced motherboards on the kitchen table with no questions asked. It has two batteries, which added a little weight, but I rarely think about power outlets any more. I can't think of anything else, b…

Neat! This will be my first thinkpad since ~2005. I’ve been eyeing the X1Carbon. What made you select T460? Do you feel that it’s portable enough to bike/walk around with and use in cafes etc? I guess what I’m really wondering is, with all different models (7 different choices in the T series, and then X and P) how can you select one? I’m in analysis paralysis.

I'm not familiar with the Carbon series. My other two Thinkpads were T-series, so I think I just started my search with what I knew.

I walk a lot with this computer and work from cafes all the time. It could be lighter, but it's fine.

I want to try NixOs, but haven't had time yet.

Re: Now Is the Perfect Time for an RSS Renaissance

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Post by reitanqild »

cocktailpeanuts wrote: post #181

Anyone who talks about revival of RSS without talking about how it will be sustainable is just ignorant or naive, because the main reason it became what it became has everything to do with money. Content providers centralized because centralized attention is more valuable than aggregation of decentralized attention in an ad driven economy. Just because you want RSS to make a come back doesn't mean it has any chance o…

Ars technica provides full rss - to paying readers. The price is reasonable.

It's a win-win: they probably earn more on each paying customer than on 10 or 20 adblocking users like us. Paying customers get full uncrippled RSS, no ads and no tracking (I think it's tiered though so you might have to pay slightly more to get all these three).

Re: Now Is the Perfect Time for an RSS Renaissance

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Post by os7borne »

While, to some extent, I agree that we should move back to RSS, shouldn't we think of RSS readers? While most of us in tech could figure it out, the mass of people find it tough to use an RSS Reader.

Maybe in the future, RSS readers could take another form altogether. But solutions out there aren't as easy to use.

Re: Now Is the Perfect Time for an RSS Renaissance

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Post by reitanqild »

douglaswlance wrote: post #21

I'm surprised how often RSS is mentioned on Hackernews, and how infrequently some recommends Feedly. It has wonderful features, like saving articles, collection boards, team features, and popularity-based sorting options. (Full disclosure, I don't work for Feedly nor do I own any of the company. I just like the service!) http://feedly.com

Seems everyone is recommending their preferred feed reader here so I'll mention the one I use as well.

Feedbro is a Firefox extension that lets me subscribe to and read feeds. Multiple layouts/formats.

I use it to subscribe to blogs, github repos etc.

I still miss a feature from the Googlr Desktop Search sidebar where it would autosubscribe/unsubscribe to rss feeds as you browsed around the web. I think it looked at what sites I visited, tried a few entries in the feed and continued/canceled based on if I read them or not.

Re: Now Is the Perfect Time for an RSS Renaissance

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Post by Jaruzel »

awat wrote: post #112
AznHisoka wrote: post #85

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.. and also how they force people to adopt it when it is convenient? ie Facebook making you privately specify RSS feeds for Instant Articles through their system (but not public ones that other people can use)

I think you hit it head on with this. It seems to be a control thing first and foremost. The worst nightmare is that you will grab their content in a text only format with no ads.

It's a very blinkered view. There's plenty of RSS feeds with text based adverts at the bottom of each article, and as most RSS reader apps show the article content in HTML, normal image based ads can work as well. So it's totally do-able to include advertising in RSS. A layperson wouldn't know how to strip the advert out either.

Re: Now Is the Perfect Time for an RSS Renaissance

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Post by ubernostrum »

your-nanny wrote: post #145
weberc2 wrote: post #38

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Yeah, we need a new way of monetizing content on the Internet.

I wonder how much I'd pay for a full content rss feed from a good blog... Maybe 20cents/mo.? I know, cheap, but there is lots of content...

Daring Fireball has experimented with this over the years.

Currently it uses a sponsor system.

Re: Now Is the Perfect Time for an RSS Renaissance

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Post by reitanqild »

your-nanny wrote: post #145
weberc2 wrote: post #38

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Yeah, we need a new way of monetizing content on the Internet.

I wonder how much I'd pay for a full content rss feed from a good blog... Maybe 20cents/mo.? I know, cheap, but there is lots of content...

I actually don't want to pay anyone monthly.

But I really like the Blendle model and would be happy to pay more through them if more relevant content (including blogs in my case) becomes available and easy to access:

It is pay-per-view but reasonably priced and with reasonable (last I checked) refunds if you happen to click on some clickbait.

I also like Spotify but I think Blendle has a better business model, at least for text.

What I like: Authors get paid for the stuff I read. The more I read the more I pay. It doesn't drain my account when I don't use it.

Re: Now Is the Perfect Time for an RSS Renaissance

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Post by Jaruzel »

bmelton wrote: post #169
adventured wrote: post #76

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LiveJournal predated Movable Type by two years.

Finger's got them all beat by a few decades. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finger_protocol

id Software used finger heavily during the 90s with regular .plan updates.

There's an archive of John Carmack's .plan files here:

https://github.com/ESWAT/john-carmack-plan-archive

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