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Now Is the Perfect Time for an RSS Renaissance

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Re: Now Is the Perfect Time for an RSS Renaissance

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Post by cocktailpeanuts »

hvidgaard wrote: post #201
cocktailpeanuts wrote: post #181

Anyone who talks about revival of RSS without talking about how it will be sustainable is just ignorant or naive, because the main reason it became what it became has everything to do with money. Content providers centralized because centralized attention is more valuable than aggregation of decentralized attention in an ad driven economy. Just because you want RSS to make a come back doesn't mean it has any chance o…

Podcasts seems to work fine, which is the exact same concept with sound in place of text.

most people use podcasts through an app, not by adding the RSS feed to their RSS reader.

When people talk about RSS being dead, they mean the consumer usage, and not about how it powers other things behind the scenes.

Re: Now Is the Perfect Time for an RSS Renaissance

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Post by dijit »

remram wrote: post #171
originalsimba wrote: post #27

Did anyone else notice how corporations like Twitter and Facebook quietly tried to kill RSS in the past 10 years? RSS is a wonderful technology with embodies the spirit of the Internet. Facebook and Twitter are, by comparison, cancer. I often recommend WordPress to folks as an alternative for blogging, because it is free and has RSS functional out of the box.

Twitter used to have RSS versions of every profile, accessible through api.twitter.com without credentials. It was awesome. They retired it years ago... I took the time to make a proxy (Twitter API to RSS), and though I did write a few more, a lot more services still provide feeds (such as YouTube, Reddit, Steam, GitHub) than I thought they would. RSS is still going strong.

Would you be willing to release the code for this? I'd like to run one myself.

Re: Now Is the Perfect Time for an RSS Renaissance

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Post by Jaruzel »

jwilk wrote: post #87
tnorthcutt wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Movable Type preceded WordPress by a couple of years or so, FWIW.

But not the others: 1999 LiveJournal 1999 Blogger 2001 Movable Type 2003 WordPress

Whilst not an open blog platform, CmdrTaco of Slashdot claims his Slashdot prototype 'Chips and Dips' which he created in 1997, was one of the first 'blogs'.

Re: Now Is the Perfect Time for an RSS Renaissance

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Post by dynamoa »

padthai wrote: post #83
disconnected wrote: post #31

"People" keep rattling on about how RSS needs to be revived. Do these people live in some sort of alternative reality where: - The guardian - BBC - Reuters - Ars Technica - LWN - Hacker News and a fuck ton others don't have an RSS feed? Or some sort or reality where Flym (or the myriads of RSS apps) don't exist? Because I sure as hell don't.

Here is the RSS feed of Hacker News: https://news.ycombinator.com/rss Edit: Every single of those webpages have an RSS feed. Ars Technica: http://feeds.arstechnica.com/arstechnica/index/ The Guardian: https://www.theguardian.com/uk/rss LWN: https://lwn.net/headlines/newrss BBC: http://feeds.bbci.co.uk/news/video_and_audio/news_front_page... Reuters: http://feeds.reuters.com/Reuters/worldNews

Is it me or is BBC's feed outdated or broken?

Re: Now Is the Perfect Time for an RSS Renaissance

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Post by cocktailpeanuts »

reitanqild wrote: post #203
cocktailpeanuts wrote: post #181

Anyone who talks about revival of RSS without talking about how it will be sustainable is just ignorant or naive, because the main reason it became what it became has everything to do with money. Content providers centralized because centralized attention is more valuable than aggregation of decentralized attention in an ad driven economy. Just because you want RSS to make a come back doesn't mean it has any chance o…

Ars technica provides full rss - to paying readers. The price is reasonable. It's a win-win: they probably earn more on each paying customer than on 10 or 20 adblocking users like us. Paying customers get full uncrippled RSS, no ads and no tracking (I think it's tiered though so you might have to pay slightly more to get all these three).

I would say that's not RSS winning, but more like Ars Technica adding many "premium features" as a bundle to justify the subscription fee.

It's like NYTimes providing crossword puzzle for free to subscribed users. You wouldn't call that "It's the perfect time for a crossword puzzle renaissance", would you?

Re: Now Is the Perfect Time for an RSS Renaissance

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Post by Jaruzel »

daveFNbuck wrote: post #178
eeZah7Ux wrote: post #106

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Feedly is nice but centralized. We should have learned the lesson.

All feed readers are centralized, even one you run on your laptop. I learned from Reader's shutdown that a centralized service shutting down is no big deal. I can easily export my feeds from Feedly and move them somewhere else if the need arises. I learned from Google that if I want a nice centralized feed reader I need one that I can support. That's why I pay for Feedly.

> All feed readers are centralized, even one you run on your laptop.

How so? I'm sure there are plenty of RSS readers on GitHub you could fork and then be safe from the developer abandoning it.

Re: Now Is the Perfect Time for an RSS Renaissance

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Post by Jaruzel »

dynamoa wrote: post #214
padthai wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here is the RSS feed of Hacker News: https://news.ycombinator.com/rss Edit: Every single of those webpages have an RSS feed. Ars Technica: http://feeds.arstechnica.com/arstechnica/index/ The Guardian: https://www.theguardian.com/uk/rss LWN: https://lwn.net/headlines/newrss BBC: http://feeds.bbci.co.uk/news/video_and_audio/news_front_page... Reuters: http://feeds.reuters.com/Reuters/worldNews

Is it me or is BBC's feed outdated or broken?

It's you. The BBC feeds work fine...

... however, they do 'touch' a lot of the articles during the week so the order they appear in the feed keeps changing.

Re: Now Is the Perfect Time for an RSS Renaissance

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Post by frouge »

gkya wrote: post #164
icebraining wrote: post #69

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Firefox has had that since version 1.0 (2004): https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/live-bookmarks

Live Bookmarks has a very weird UI. I have upwards of 90 feeds currently, and it's simply impractical for me to check each one of them manually to see if there is soemthing new.

Yeah just tested and its close from what I want but I need to know how many new items I've got. Can't just remember from each site what was the last item

Re: Now Is the Perfect Time for an RSS Renaissance

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Post by skrause »

na85 wrote: post #182
JoshMnem wrote: post #142

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Most podcasts that I've encountered lately don't have RSS feeds listed. You have to view source to find the URLs. The Internet needs to revive that open technology culture. Instead of Facebook/Twitter/G+/etc. subscribe to RSS feeds. Instead of Medium, use WordPress/Hugo/Metalsmith/etc. on Netlify/Surge/Github etc. Instead of Mac, use GNU/Linux. Etc.

>Instead of Mac, use GNU/Linux. Bought my first Macbook pro after being a linux/ThinkPad guy since 2008. I'm probably never going back to Linux on a laptop. I actually have working suspend and resume, plus it's Unix-like under the hood. Trackpad actually works without a bunch of ugly hacks since they deprecated synaptics drivers. no systemd, etc. I spend almost no time fiddling with my system nowadays. I want to use…

> no systemd, etc.

systemd was very much inspired by macOS's launchd, they're very similar in many ways.

Re: Now Is the Perfect Time for an RSS Renaissance

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Post by jeena »

remir wrote: post #136
jeena wrote: post #124

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https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/micro-blog/id1253201335?mt=8

Looks interesting, but there's not Android app unfortunately.

That is true, not yet. And in theory it's kind of compatible with https://indieweb.org/ but in practice I haven't been able to find out how to connect my website to this community so they can read it too in their app.
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