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Now Is the Perfect Time for an RSS Renaissance

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Re: Now Is the Perfect Time for an RSS Renaissance

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Post by originalsimba »

jmspring wrote: post #104
adventured wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

LiveJournal predated Movable Type by two years.

Static websites with blogs/regular entries predated even livejournal

This.

Blogging predates all blogging services, platforms, and software. Blogging was invented by early web pioneers. The corporations followed in the Gold Rush of the 1990s dot-com bubble, and they've been trying to monetize our social lives ever since.

Nowadays, thanks to marketing machines and television talking heads, nobody has "websites" anymore, we have "blogs".

Re: Now Is the Perfect Time for an RSS Renaissance

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Post by originalsimba »

weberc2 wrote: post #37
originalsimba wrote: post #27

Did anyone else notice how corporations like Twitter and Facebook quietly tried to kill RSS in the past 10 years? RSS is a wonderful technology with embodies the spirit of the Internet. Facebook and Twitter are, by comparison, cancer. I often recommend WordPress to folks as an alternative for blogging, because it is free and has RSS functional out of the box.

> Facebook and Twitter are, by comparison, cancer. How are FB and Twitter comparable to RSS? And how are they trying to kill it? Like they're not supporting it on their platform? If so, why should I care? Or do you mean "they're conspiring to kill it across the Internet", in which case please elaborate. EDIT: I'm getting downvoted; I can only assume people are interpreting my comment as vouching for FB/Twitter, which…

Both Facebook and Twitter DID support RSS, both, for years.

Each corporation decided to eliminate RSS from their platform around 3 to 5 years ago, because they wanted complete control over the distribution of "their" content (OUR social lives).

It's difficult to discuss this subject without running into this gigantic elephant in the room which is that the behavior of corporate "social media" giants is exploitative, bordering on criminal, and absolutely contradicts the best interest of the public, our nation, the internet, and intelligent life. This has really served to spotlight some of the problems with free market capitalism.

Re: Now Is the Perfect Time for an RSS Renaissance

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Post by askvictor »

originalsimba wrote: post #27

Did anyone else notice how corporations like Twitter and Facebook quietly tried to kill RSS in the past 10 years? RSS is a wonderful technology with embodies the spirit of the Internet. Facebook and Twitter are, by comparison, cancer. I often recommend WordPress to folks as an alternative for blogging, because it is free and has RSS functional out of the box.

Don't forget Google. In fact, it's not just RSS; it's other open standards (e.g. XMPP) that they embraced initially, then dropped.

Re: Now Is the Perfect Time for an RSS Renaissance

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Post by originalsimba »

michaelbuckbee wrote: post #111
dfee wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nothing is free. WordPress is also a blogging platform first and foremost.

I think you're being downvoted as there is both wordpress.com (which you correctly state is a blogging platform) and then wordpress.org (the open source PHP application anyone can freely install on anything from shared hosting on up). At even a cursory glance, independent Wordpress installs vastly outnumber the number of domains hosted on wordpress.com

Well you can get a VPS for $2.50/mo these days with half a gig of ram, more than enough to handle 5-15 simultaneous visitors on your average WordPress blog.

The WordPress software IS free. The WordPress.com service is not, as you pay for it by attaching their domain name to yours thereby providing them free advertising.

Also, there's nothing to stop you from hosting your personal blog on your personal internet connection. Even if you don't have a static IP there's ways to solve that.

Re: Now Is the Perfect Time for an RSS Renaissance

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Post by stevenwoo »

arsa wrote: post #98
douglaswlance wrote: post #21

I'm surprised how often RSS is mentioned on Hackernews, and how infrequently some recommends Feedly. It has wonderful features, like saving articles, collection boards, team features, and popularity-based sorting options. (Full disclosure, I don't work for Feedly nor do I own any of the company. I just like the service!) http://feedly.com

I use it daily for years and was shocked to find that it supports pinch zoom on iOS - but not android (where i use it). Feels like it that's just tip of the iceberg re. things they could improve - for example they finally, finally!, added ability to create categories/tags for free (was paid feature). I understand it's tough to run a business like this (and why google killed this, at least officially) - but i wouldn't…

I vaguely recall Apple getting the patent for pinch to zoom for a while, and not getting native support on Android after Apple lost it, and having to reimplement it for the longest time when doing things on Android.

Re: Now Is the Perfect Time for an RSS Renaissance

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Post by franzpeterstein »

heinrichhartman wrote: post #4
parvenu74 wrote: post #2

Can part of the renaissance be switching to a JSON format? Please?

Yes, and while we are at it. Can we make HTML JSON based, as well? { "head" : [...], "body" : [ { "name" : "H1", "text" : "Hello JSON" }, ... ] } So much easier on the eye. ; )

Please. :)

Re: Now Is the Perfect Time for an RSS Renaissance

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Post by 0x445442 »

awat wrote: post #112
AznHisoka wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

.. and also how they force people to adopt it when it is convenient? ie Facebook making you privately specify RSS feeds for Instant Articles through their system (but not public ones that other people can use)

I think you hit it head on with this. It seems to be a control thing first and foremost. The worst nightmare is that you will grab their content in a text only format with no ads.

Yep, capital has viewed the interwebs main purpose as a massive direct marketing platform.
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