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Apple Sued an iPhone Repair Shop Owner in Norway and Lost

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Re: Apple Sued an iPhone Repair Shop Owner in Norway and Lost

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Post by zouhair »

mattsfrey wrote: post #30

"Apple does not ‘own’ the product after they have sold it" I think this is the crux of the issue. The guy was importing refurbished parts with the logos covered even. They weren't counterfeits. How does a manufacturer have the right to sue for copyright infringement when it's just end users reselling authentic parts? The owner even states he in no way markets them as OEM parts. Frankly I think it's pretty obvious app…

I think they are just testing the waters in a small suit to see which strategy will work better for them to enforce rendering fixing their products illegal.

Apple now is a full on evil corporation.

Re: Apple Sued an iPhone Repair Shop Owner in Norway and Lost

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Post by blattimwind »

blattimwind wrote: post #119
FireBeyond wrote: post #103

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> The first thing you are being told when becoming Apple Authorized Service provider is UP-SELL. Your main function and profit source is telling people "cant be repaired/repair will cost as much as new one, would you like this new model?" I had water damage to a 2013 MBP, minor but nonetheless. It passed all diagnostics. Ran fine on AC power. Battery diagnostics were fine too. But it wouldn't charge. "Charge circuit…

> So, there's labor, etc. But you're going to tell me that to repair something, that by your own diagnostics, is fine except for this one part costs 70% of the new purchase price? That's what a highly integrated machine gets you. Charge circuit defective => replace entire main board, including CPU, probably memory and storage too nowadays. No one is doing component-level repairs any more.

I would like to take this moment to thank the numerous repliers to my comment for proving my point.

Re: Apple Sued an iPhone Repair Shop Owner in Norway and Lost

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Post by eesmith »

jehlakj wrote: post #143
eesmith wrote: post #95

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At Ford™ we care about our brand. We want people who bought a Ford™ car to have the best experience we prepared for them. Other fuels may contain additives which make your Ford™ engine seem imperfect. A few misguided people are tempted by the siren call of the independent fuel suppliers to use something other than the Ford™ fuel specially made for your needs. When things go wrong, they spread rumors that Ford™ vehicl…

Any reason why you used the ford brand as an example? I don’t like or hate them - just curious why them over others, if there’s any reason at all.

No deep reason. Once upon a time Ford dominated the car industry, and Henry Ford cared deeply about the engineering of Ford cars ("the brand"). I also wanted an industry where people spent a lot of money on an end-user product, such that they would not want to do something which might break a warranty.

Re: Apple Sued an iPhone Repair Shop Owner in Norway and Lost

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Post by ubernostrum »

ksk wrote: post #272
ubernostrum wrote: post #270

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If you mean "can I provide you the exact reason why it happened", no. But I still think it's much more likely that Apple just doesn't test for third-party repairs than that they deliberately work to come up with ways to break a third-party repair without breaking their own repairs. I believe this because I've worked on software teams that developed things that would only be used in-house in controlled ways, and I've…

We're clearly operating on seperate planes here. Your reasoning as far as I can tell, is your own belief, and not based on evidence that anyone can verify. My reasoning is based on Apples actions, their own comments, experiences of third party repair shops who are being threatened by Apple, and my own experience with third party repair shops. I can never understand why people want to stop others from choosing where t…

I can never understand why people want to stop others from choosing where they repair their products.

The fact that you keep saying things like this, when I've said nothing indicating that I believe such a thing, is a clear indicator of willful dishonesty on your part. You get no more of my time.

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Post by dpkonofa »

ksk wrote: post #272
ubernostrum wrote: post #270

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If you mean "can I provide you the exact reason why it happened", no. But I still think it's much more likely that Apple just doesn't test for third-party repairs than that they deliberately work to come up with ways to break a third-party repair without breaking their own repairs. I believe this because I've worked on software teams that developed things that would only be used in-house in controlled ways, and I've…

We're clearly operating on seperate planes here. Your reasoning as far as I can tell, is your own belief, and not based on evidence that anyone can verify. My reasoning is based on Apples actions, their own comments, experiences of third party repair shops who are being threatened by Apple, and my own experience with third party repair shops. I can never understand why people want to stop others from choosing where t…

>My reasoning is based on Apples actions, their own comments, experiences of third party repair shops who are being threatened by Apple, and my own experience with third party repair shops

No... your reasoning is based on your interpretation of all parties' intentions of which you have no basis for combined with flat-out misinformation about what the third-party repair shops are doing/claiming. Apple is not stopping anyone from choosing where they repair their products nor are they stopping third-party repair shops from repairing their products. The fact that you continue to spread this objectively false information is all anyone needs to know to validate that your position is unfounded. If it was, you wouldn't have to lie and rely on already discredited information to make your point. Your point would stand on its own. As it is, though, it falls apart immediately under any kind of basic scrutiny.

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Post by dpkonofa »

StavrosK wrote: post #278
dpkonofa wrote: post #268

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Microsoft had a monopoly. Apple doesn't. If you don't like it, go buy an Android phone.

I mean, that's exactly what many of us are doing.

I know. That's my point. People are complaining about decisions made by the company as if they're civil rights violations.

"I can't change the default SMS app on my phone!" This has always been the case with the iPhone since the beginning. Until Apple says that this is now a new part of the OS, pretending like that was some kind of bait and switch or deceptive business practice is completely silly.

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Post by cptskippy »

Karunamon wrote: post #290
cptskippy wrote: post #288

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Right, why does that warrant bricking the phone? Or in the case of the iPhone 7, disabling the home button?

“Bricking the phone” was a bug and was fixed. Disabling Touch ID is necessary to support the security of the phone. I don’t want a state actor installing a crocked module and use it to break the phone’s security.

> "Bricking the phone” was a bug and was fixed.

It wasn't a bug according to Apple. First they said it was deliberate then after the story blew up they said it was a test feature never intended to leave the factory.

They never said it was a bug, the behavior was intentional.

> Disabling Touch ID is necessary to support the security of the phone. I don’t want a state actor installing a crocked module and use it to break the phone’s security.

No one is disputing that, why do you keep bringing it up?

Are you trying to downplay the fact that they are intentionally screwing over people who don't get repairs through them?

Why does swapping the Touch ID module necessitate disabling the home button as well as Touch ID in the iPhone 7?

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Post by _s »

danielbarla wrote: post #280
wichert wrote: post #277

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Asian outlets are amazingly versatile: they happily take both European and US plugs. It's a real pleasure not having to bring converter plugs with you. I am still wondering why airports all over the world have not adopted them.

That sounds great. Though, how is the voltage difference handled?

Most power adapters for electronic devices will take any AC input from 100-240v and transform accordingly to the device (which cares more about DC), but definitely check before plugging it in. The Americas and Japan are 100-127v, and the rest of the world is 220-240v with a few discrepancies here and there. They also range from 50hz-60hz AC, so some devices that rely on the frequency for time may slow or speed up depending on what region they were made and where they are used.

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Post by lovich »

dpkonofa wrote: post #268
lovich wrote: post #255

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I don't know. Those all seem like valid complaints to me. The os is separate from the applications and everything he listed has its own industry. Microsoft was reamed over installing IE as the default browser on their OS, so how is not letting you change safari as the default on iOS any different?

Microsoft had a monopoly. Apple doesn't. If you don't like it, go buy an Android phone.

Coulda said the same thing with Microsoft, go buy a Mac. Monoply power isn't a binary stat, it's a sliding scale and eventually these companies get enough power to start affecting other industries
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