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Brutalist Design Is the Bad Influence We All Need

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Re: Brutalist Design Is the Bad Influence We All Need

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Describing a startup-happy billionaire-loving site like HN as "anti-bourgeois" is comical.

Describing any CSS style or design pattern as "anti-bourgeois" is comical.

Sounds like a job for Comic Sans!

Re: Brutalist Design Is the Bad Influence We All Need

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Anything to get away from this boring, corporate sanctioned influence of web design! Please!

The web used have identities, you KNEW you were in Vimm's lair. Now it's all the same bootstrappified muck.

https://vimm.net/

The question is, how do you convince management to allow this direction?

Re: Brutalist Design Is the Bad Influence We All Need

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I'm confused. I don't see what makes most of the examples cited here "Brutalist" in any meaningful fashion. Brutalism is, of course, a fuzzy (and contentious) label to begin with. But the article cites two interpretations of the term that we could use to evaluate how Brutalist a given design is: honest, unpretentious and anti-bourgeois and a sense of roughness, exposed structures and visible thought processes The pro…

I find JIRA also pretty “brutalist” in the style of Craigslist.

Re: Brutalist Design Is the Bad Influence We All Need

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Craigslist is a great example of what actual brutalist design would look like on the web. Not the web, but ncurses and other cli like uis are probably brutalist. The examples in the blog post don't strike me as brutalist at all. More like Swiss modern, which at this point has been done to death. I think designers like the "clean" look but I find it to antiseptic and antihuman. Myspace was an example of a human (but n…

Wouldn't motherfuckingwebsite.com be the perfect distillation of the philosophy he's talking about?

Yeah.

Re: Brutalist Design Is the Bad Influence We All Need

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Brutalist architecture was a disaster, especially in countries like the UK where poor light and regular rain make grey concrete one of the most depressing and least durable of all possible building materials. The UK was littered with Brutalist "statement" buildings. Most have been pulled down now, and - with a few high profile exceptions, which have escaped the low-budget ghetto most of the movement settled in - the…

That's why brutalist architecture works best when it includes large windows and sky lights. What makes the brutalist buildings in the Pacific Northwest beautiful is that many of them are now covered in vegetation, with mosses or vines muting their harshness. That said, this so-called "brutalist web design" is bullshit. It's just avant-garde design of the 80s applied to web pages.

There were a whole bunch of such buildings on the UC Berkeley campus, and one was allowed to be covered with vines like that - absolutely gorgeous.

Re: Brutalist Design Is the Bad Influence We All Need

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Brutalist architecture was a disaster, especially in countries like the UK where poor light and regular rain make grey concrete one of the most depressing and least durable of all possible building materials. The UK was littered with Brutalist "statement" buildings. Most have been pulled down now, and - with a few high profile exceptions, which have escaped the low-budget ghetto most of the movement settled in - the…

That's why brutalist architecture works best when it includes large windows and sky lights. What makes the brutalist buildings in the Pacific Northwest beautiful is that many of them are now covered in vegetation, with mosses or vines muting their harshness. That said, this so-called "brutalist web design" is bullshit. It's just avant-garde design of the 80s applied to web pages.

What are some building I can visit around Portland?

Re: Brutalist Design Is the Bad Influence We All Need

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> I'm confused. I don't see what makes most of the examples cited here "Brutalist" in any meaningful fashion. Because these examples have nothing to do with "brutalism" in architecture. It's just another buzzword misappropriated by (web) designers. 5 years ago everything was "flat" now everything is "brutalist" including what was "flat". Designers shouldn't pick a style because it's trendy, they should do their job a…

It also used to be called "anti-design". The concept has been around for a while. I really get annoyed when terms like "brutalism" are co-opted as yet another buzzword/trend/fad.

>I really get annoyed when terms like "brutalism" are co-opted as yet another buzzword/trend/fad.

Along with native and real time.

Re: Brutalist Design Is the Bad Influence We All Need

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It also used to be called "anti-design". The concept has been around for a while. I really get annoyed when terms like "brutalism" are co-opted as yet another buzzword/trend/fad.

>I really get annoyed when terms like "brutalism" are co-opted as yet another buzzword/trend/fad. Along with native and real time .

Realtime native quantum ai makes your payments with blockchain to change industry!

Re: Brutalist Design Is the Bad Influence We All Need

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As for "exposed structures", I'd include the prominence of the box model underlying the rendered HTML, emphasized by visible borders and/or distinct backgrounds. As others are mentioning, the border-heavy http://www.zku-berlin.org (included in the article's examples) qualifies, and so do 1990s-style websites that appear to be authored with tables and don't try to cloak the inner workings of the layout.

Then again, the label 'brutalist' is fraught with conflated interpretations that to some followed logically, yet in other contexts they appear to be in conflict. From the very beginning, the term sprung out of linguistic confusion between French and English [1], where Le Corbusier's French descriptor for 'raw concrete' was lost in translation and reinterpreted by English commentators as brutal, then art imitated life…

>Le Corbusier's French descriptor for 'raw concrete' was lost in translation and reinterpreted by English commentators as brutal,

I always thought that argument as flimsy, since the word brute exists in French and has exactly the same meaning as in English.

Re: Brutalist Design Is the Bad Influence We All Need

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I'm confused. I don't see what makes most of the examples cited here "Brutalist" in any meaningful fashion. Brutalism is, of course, a fuzzy (and contentious) label to begin with. But the article cites two interpretations of the term that we could use to evaluate how Brutalist a given design is: honest, unpretentious and anti-bourgeois and a sense of roughness, exposed structures and visible thought processes The pro…

I'm not sure there is any web site that would qualify as Brutalist by this definition.

maybe a page created on something like jsfiddle.

Heck, sincewe compile js now, you could say anything that still has readable source counts.

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