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Re: YouTube Face is clickbait, attaining human form

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The really interesting question to my mind is what comes next. This is a wildfire sweeping across previously unspoiled plains, and yes, it's very impressive and a bit destructive (fortunately these metaphorical plains aren't built up with too many valuable bits of infrastructure) and worth a story... but what comes after the fire sweeps through? What happens when the bulk of people have already clicked on their thousand videos advertised like this and realize there's no great need to click on 1,001? Obviously it doesn't mean a nirvana will arise in which people will suddenly seek out "real" content, but something will have to shift.

These YouTube thumbnails are basically pushing all the buttons in the human brain as hard as they can without getting whacked from the site. The only harder button I can think of is nudity but that won't be permitted. (In fact, if you've never thought of it this way before, consider that it won't be permitted precisely because it hits the buttons too hard. There are reasons beyond stereotypical moralistic "prudery" to resist slathering public spaces in nudity and sexual content.) So once they burn out this button... which they will, eventually, though much like the market, people can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent, so to speak... what comes next? People will eventually develop a sort of mental callous around this and on one level or another resist being yanked around so casually. What will replace it?

Re: YouTube Face is clickbait, attaining human form

#112
It's called acting. When people express things they have no real reason to feel, it's called acting.

AVGN makes those faces all the way throughout his videos, because he is an actor, and he is acting out an exaggeration of his frustrations with video games. If it weren't acting, then you'd see the same level of crazy in common video game review articles.

Re: YouTube Face is clickbait, attaining human form

#113

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One day, I promise I will stop clicking on thumbnails that bait me with the promise of something vaguely sexual. One day. Maybe. I hope.

Would you be interested in a training program?

I've idly wondered sometimes about the effectiveness of a shock collar sort of setup for oneself that allowed the conscious mind to hit the body with something its more primal parts understand better than the mere disapproval of the conscious mind, which it doesn't seem to much care about.

(I'm actually a bit concerned it might be too effective. It may be the case that anyone wise enough to properly use one has already worked out other effective mechanisms to obtain the effect with less of the danger.)

Re: YouTube Face is clickbait, attaining human form

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post #85

I remember seeing a tutorial on making stock pictures. Doing exaggerated expressions is their number one advise. The idea is that these pictures will be in a library of thousands, and it has to stand out, regular faces don't. It is not a YouTube thing. It happens even in traditional newspapers as they battle against each other in the newsstand.

Newspapers did it before it was mainstream, with headlines that kept getting bigger and more screamy.

Tabloids are absolutely terrible for it. Gigantic fonts, garish colors, all caps all over the place.

Re: YouTube Face is clickbait, attaining human form

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>I hope that we can grow beyond changing ourselves to fit the algorithm I personally think you are in for a very rude awakening. This is exactly what people are trying not to do with Machine Learning. It is always, almost, about profiling you, about finding out who you are in order to offer you what you already know, to limit your horizon, to "tailor" your "experience" and the span of possibilities. As a very technic…

Which makes me think... ...would someone be willing to develop a content recommendation engine that filters out all the bullshit on the web? Especially valuable would be one that is also immune to "filter bubble" effects.

I think you have to be exposed to the bullshit. I explicitly follow people on Twitter I strongly disagree with; that sometimes outright outrage and disgust me. I don’t interact with them, but I read what they’re saying and what people in their filter bubble say back to them. That’s my best solution to trying to escape too small a filter bubble of my own.

Re: YouTube Face is clickbait, attaining human form

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post #111

The really interesting question to my mind is what comes next. This is a wildfire sweeping across previously unspoiled plains, and yes, it's very impressive and a bit destructive (fortunately these metaphorical plains aren't built up with too many valuable bits of infrastructure) and worth a story... but what comes after the fire sweeps through? What happens when the bulk of people have already clicked on their thous…

The article points out the evolution and how we got from each prior step to this point; it gets worse and worse and worse (and worse and worse)

Re: YouTube Face is clickbait, attaining human form

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post #110

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Why soulless? Your life is what you make it. Build meaning yourself.

I've always found it a bit odd when people are singing elegies to the joys of human contact in... a supermarket checkout line. There's no point in my life in which that was a serious source of "human contact" and I think anyone who can't say that has a problem that needs immediate addressing. One that can't be fixed by complaining about how impersonal shopping is now. I do see human contact in the grocery store... it…

I don't find joy in a supermarket checkout line, but I have witnessed joy in some people (customers, mostly older, who found a way to stand out from the masses and have a face). Perhaps those who take the time to sing elegies actually do find personal joy and fulfillment even a checkout line even if you and I do not.

Re: YouTube Face is clickbait, attaining human form

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post #111

The really interesting question to my mind is what comes next. This is a wildfire sweeping across previously unspoiled plains, and yes, it's very impressive and a bit destructive (fortunately these metaphorical plains aren't built up with too many valuable bits of infrastructure) and worth a story... but what comes after the fire sweeps through? What happens when the bulk of people have already clicked on their thous…

The article points out the evolution and how we got from each prior step to this point; it gets worse and worse and worse (and worse and worse)

It can't get worse forever, because the badness is bounded by the psychology of the human brain on one side, and the YouTube-enforced standards on the other. Something will eventually have to give.

Re: YouTube Face is clickbait, attaining human form

#119

Alternatively, it serves as a pretty good filter for content I will actively try to avoid. Playing a video and immediately hearing that "HEY GUYS" voice makes me click the back button instantly, and block the channel.

Austin Evans is the only YouTuber who I enjoy who also starts his videos with "Hey guys! This is Austin."

Re: YouTube Face is clickbait, attaining human form

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I was talking with a colleague at the coffee machine, telling him how this weekend I went to the supermarket to do the groceries, and how it was a pain to carry bags around. He replied 'I haven't stepped in a supermarket in months, I do all my groceries online. It is much more efficient'. I have to admit I felt dumb for not optimising my time like he does. But reflecting on it, I feel sad that our private time is bec…

The real question is what you do with the extra time this affords you.

The real real question is why he was complaining about the difficulty to carry bags around.... carts were invented fulfill that purpose.
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