YouTube Face is clickbait, attaining human form

Post by ILikeConemowk » Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 7:16 AM UTC

mattbierner wrote: post #69

ILikeConemowk wrote: post #63

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>I hope that we can grow beyond changing ourselves to fit the algorithm I personally think you are in for a very rude awakening. This is exactly what people are trying not to do with Machine Learning. It is always, almost, about profiling you, about finding out who you are in order to offer you what you already know, to limit your horizon, to "tailor" your "experience" and the span of possibilities. As a very technic…

Yes I think you are right. Just today for example, many people seemed encouraged when Zuckerberg said facebook would have AI to effectively and automatically block hate speech in 5-10 years. And while it's hard to be, "oh no think of the poor hate speech!" that tech is actually very scary when you start thinking about how much it can be abused. The first thing we'd probably do with cuttlefish suits anyways is stick a…

Post by terminado » Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 7:29 AM UTC

ILikeConemowk wrote: post #71

mattbierner wrote: post #69

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Yes I think you are right. Just today for example, many people seemed encouraged when Zuckerberg said facebook would have AI to effectively and automatically block hate speech in 5-10 years. And while it's hard to be, "oh no think of the poor hate speech!" that tech is actually very scary when you start thinking about how much it can be abused. The first thing we'd probably do with cuttlefish suits anyways is stick a…

>oh no think of the poor hate speech This is an easy target. Whenever you get that argument you go all: "it's a bit unsettling that you find censor-happy human-out-of-the-loop algorimhms good, but I thank you for you honesty." Then you recall that you are a programmer: "you know what, I should definitely program an algorithm that censors all positive talk about censor-happy human-out-of-the-loop algorithms. Thanks fo…

Post by tudorw » Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 7:57 AM UTC

Post by glaberficken » Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 8:17 AM UTC

ILikeConemowk wrote: post #63

mattbierner wrote: post #30

This post made me want to re-read "You Are Not a Gadget." One of Lanier's points in that book is that technology can both augment expression and bound it. The Like Button is a classic example of bounding because it reduces your thoughts and feelings about a piece of content to a thumbs up, whereas a simple textbox would let you note whatever you want about the content (text is also harder to monetize and analyze and…

>I hope that we can grow beyond changing ourselves to fit the algorithm I personally think you are in for a very rude awakening. This is exactly what people are trying not to do with Machine Learning. It is always, almost, about profiling you, about finding out who you are in order to offer you what you already know, to limit your horizon, to "tailor" your "experience" and the span of possibilities. As a very technic…

Post by sametmax » Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 8:27 AM UTC

glaberficken wrote: post #77

ILikeConemowk wrote: post #63

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>I hope that we can grow beyond changing ourselves to fit the algorithm I personally think you are in for a very rude awakening. This is exactly what people are trying not to do with Machine Learning. It is always, almost, about profiling you, about finding out who you are in order to offer you what you already know, to limit your horizon, to "tailor" your "experience" and the span of possibilities. As a very technic…

Which makes me think... ...would someone be willing to develop a content recommendation engine that filters out all the bullshit on the web? Especially valuable would be one that is also immune to "filter bubble" effects.