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Facebook urged to make GDPR its “baseline standard” globally

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Re: Facebook urged to make GDPR its “baseline standard” globally

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I think in the opposit we should urge US companies to fight against GDPR. Local foreign laws shouldn’t dictate how our companies should behave. Why not respecting speech laws in China or in Russia if we follow this precedent?

"our companies"?

Facebook isn't only a US company. Facebook Ltd is a UK company and they have many more companies around the world.

If you want to operate in UK and generate revenues there then Facebook Ltd must follow UK laws.

Re: Facebook urged to make GDPR its “baseline standard” globally

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There's been so many articles about Facebook and the recent privacy catastrophe that I'm finding it hard to keep up. Does anybody actually know what their response will be to the GDPR? Are the privacy benefits from the GDPR going to be exclusive to EU citizens? This seems problematic. Whatever happens, Facebook has irreparably damaged my trust in their handling of user data and I think many on here would agree. My wi…

EU residents, not citizens. It's an important distinction.

EEA residents, not EU residents.

Re: Facebook urged to make GDPR its “baseline standard” globally

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With all the comments about not wanting EU law to be the international standard, it’s not really that unusual for regulations in one country to do this. For example, U.S. fuel efficiency standards have a significant impact on the entire market. If these are reduced by the current administration, but California maintains the same standards, even California’s regulations might be enough to keep the same or nearly the same impact on the market.

Re: Facebook urged to make GDPR its “baseline standard” globally

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A lot of people don’t care about fire safety either (until their house is burning down) which is why we have regulations, building codes, mandatory sprinklers in offices, etc. I am starting to look at privacy like it should be treated as a public safety concern, since it’s invisible to people until it’s not.

can social media kill you though? I mean all this talk of regulating social networks is under the assumption that it's something you need to have. I would argue that safe shelter is a true human need, but posting cat gifs or pictures of drunken escapades or political musings does not seem equally comparable and thus I do not see how regulation does anything other than hamper competition.

Um yes, yes it can. Think about all of the times you here of bullying/suicide cases prompted by social media.

Re: Facebook urged to make GDPR its “baseline standard” globally

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How is the country/continent of origin of a regulation that is entirely in your best interest of any relevance?

> How is the country/continent of origin of a regulation that is entirely in your best interest of any relevance? Laws carry their culture. GDPR is, from an American perspective, an overworked mess designed to support a big bureaucracy. This side of the Atlantic, we'd do something slimmer, more reliant on privately-funded cases (and regulatory complaints) versus public ombudsmen, and better attuned to start-ups’ need…

US is generally corporation-first, EU is human-first. You can see it permeating many aspects of society, work, law etc. Don't hold your breath for too long for it, it would require clusterfuck on another scale to materialize in US

Re: Facebook urged to make GDPR its “baseline standard” globally

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It's as absurd as Google/Facebook/et al. adopting US cultural norms as global standard of banning ads, YouTube content, social media content and everything else for the whole world. Meaning: not absurd at all.

While I don't agree with some of Google/Facebook/et al. standards, I think that's not a fair comparison, since they are US based companies following US cultural norms, not EU based companies following US cultural norms.

They may be founded in the US, and primarily headquartered there, but the large sprawling EU headquarters of the same companies do apply US cultural norms locally. I don't see the unfairness in the comparison.

Re: Facebook urged to make GDPR its “baseline standard” globally

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Who said anything about the police? The GDPR does not say that the police has the right remove stuff. It allows courts to rule that a company must comply to a removal order.

It’s worth noting that around 85% of requests based on right to be forgotten were from public figures and institutions in 2016. The legitimate cases are rare.

Actual statistics: https://transparencyreport.google.com/eu-privacy/overview?su...

88.7% of requests by private persons. And even excluding those, only 20.9% of the remaining request were made by gov institutions or politicians.

Please don't spread lies, thank you.

Re: Facebook urged to make GDPR its “baseline standard” globally

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Read about what GDPR actually entails. Following it should be simple for a new player.

But how can you have enough user-growth to get vast amount of money from investor if you can't play fast and loose with the data you collect on your users? Fuck the users! They're not the clients.

You forgot the key Silicon Valley ethos: "Move fast and break things", where things include ethics and users' privacy expectations

Re: Facebook urged to make GDPR its “baseline standard” globally

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A lot of people don’t care about fire safety either (until their house is burning down) which is why we have regulations, building codes, mandatory sprinklers in offices, etc. I am starting to look at privacy like it should be treated as a public safety concern, since it’s invisible to people until it’s not.

can social media kill you though? I mean all this talk of regulating social networks is under the assumption that it's something you need to have. I would argue that safe shelter is a true human need, but posting cat gifs or pictures of drunken escapades or political musings does not seem equally comparable and thus I do not see how regulation does anything other than hamper competition.

1 million people genocided in Myanmar, you ignorant cunt.
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