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Facebook urged to make GDPR its “baseline standard” globally

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Re: Facebook urged to make GDPR its “baseline standard” globally

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hello GDPR, goodbye freedom of speech

You probably should explain this statement.

I agree with parent.

GDPR is a threat to freedom of speech while not changing much in term of privacy as worst actors is governements themselves. Edward Snowden revalations are 100x worse than whatever worse FB scenario you are picking.

GDPR sets a bad precedent with local laws impacting foreign businesses. In this logic, why Chinese speech laws shouldn’t apply to EU and US companies if GDPR applies globally?

Re: Facebook urged to make GDPR its “baseline standard” globally

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There's been so many articles about Facebook and the recent privacy catastrophe that I'm finding it hard to keep up. Does anybody actually know what their response will be to the GDPR? Are the privacy benefits from the GDPR going to be exclusive to EU citizens? This seems problematic.

Whatever happens, Facebook has irreparably damaged my trust in their handling of user data and I think many on here would agree. My wife and I have switched to Riot [0] for now for personal communication and are considering other decentralized alternatives.

[0] https://about.riot.im/

Re: Facebook urged to make GDPR its “baseline standard” globally

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It would be absurd for Facebook, a US company, to adopt as a global standard a framework that's entirely decided and enforced by the EU. Perhaps a global data protection framework can largely conform to GDPR, but it clearly has to be decided in the US.

It's as absurd as Google/Facebook/et al. adopting US cultural norms as global standard of banning ads, YouTube content, social media content and everything else for the whole world. Meaning: not absurd at all.

While I don't agree with some of Google/Facebook/et al. standards, I think that's not a fair comparison, since they are US based companies following US cultural norms, not EU based companies following US cultural norms.

Re: Facebook urged to make GDPR its “baseline standard” globally

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You probably should explain this statement.

I have seen a lot of GDPR critics on HN saying that the right to be forgotten is censorship. That news articles about criminals should not be deleted. The GP is probably reiterating such sentiments. Strangely, none of these critics ever seem to consider the opposite cases: what if a person was wrongly accused of murder, but was later found innocent? Old articles about his "suspicion for murder" should either be recti…

I don’t think allowing the police to remove their errors from the Internet is a good thing.

Re: Facebook urged to make GDPR its “baseline standard” globally

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hello GDPR, goodbye freedom of speech

You probably should explain this statement.

I'm not the one who commented above, but I can see some problems with freedom of speech related to GDPR.

The main problem is that EU legislation is complex and subject to interpretation for which we have no precedents. Such legislation is easily exploited by authorities to silence opposition. As Napolen never said, "A Constitution should be short and obscure." GDPR is long and obscure. That leaves even more power to the executive.

This situation benefits large corporations - such as Facebook - who can afford an army of lawyers and can deploy resources to legal fights in any country. Small actors with dissenting views are hopelessly disadvantaged in this kind of a setup, and I forecast that we'll see authorities shutting down blogs and websites using GDPR as their tool.

Re: Facebook urged to make GDPR its “baseline standard” globally

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There's been so many articles about Facebook and the recent privacy catastrophe that I'm finding it hard to keep up. Does anybody actually know what their response will be to the GDPR? Are the privacy benefits from the GDPR going to be exclusive to EU citizens? This seems problematic. Whatever happens, Facebook has irreparably damaged my trust in their handling of user data and I think many on here would agree. My wi…

EU residents, not citizens. It's an important distinction.

Re: Facebook urged to make GDPR its “baseline standard” globally

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It would be absurd for Facebook, a US company, to adopt as a global standard a framework that's entirely decided and enforced by the EU. Perhaps a global data protection framework can largely conform to GDPR, but it clearly has to be decided in the US.

It would be absurd if they could be _forced_ to globally adopt an EU regulation, but I think not as much if they _do_ globally adopt this EU regulation, for two reasons:

1. There might be significant internal hassle involved in working with more than one standard of integrity within a single company dealing with integrity as its currency and user base as pillars. It may be easier for them to just use a common one even if it is more restrictive, at least if it is backed by a population of 500 million people.

2. Facebook are going through a PR crisis and need to dig out of that hole somehow. If they only adopt EU regulations in the EU, it could be seen as Facebook are only doing the least they can to protect the integrity of their users and that this is seen as a better move?

It's funny how GDPR coincides with the Facebook scandals as of late, though... Their lawyers and engineers have got to be buried with work. I can't even begin to imagine what a company of Facebook's scale and business model need to do to support GDPR globally.

Re: Facebook urged to make GDPR its “baseline standard” globally

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"[any big US tech companies] Urged to Adopt GDPR Globally as a Standard"

As an European living abroad, I still have no idea if I will be protected by the GDPR. I read at least 2 opposite answers on HN on the last days: "yes because you are a EU citizen", "no because it's where you are when the data are collected that matters".

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