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YouTube Hiring for Some Positions Excluded White and Asian Males, Lawsuit Says

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This doesn’t surprise me. I can’t speak to what it’s like to be a white man but for some reason Asians especially men are excluded as being part of what contributes to diversity despite being visible persons of colour.

And Asians are more successful than white people on average. Strange that there is no “Asian Privilege”

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NBA is totally underrepresented by non-black Males, let's sue them. Swim tournament is severely underrepresented by deep skin colors. Meanwhile track and field is the opposite. Let's mix all colors everywhere based on population percentile, to achieve diversity, equal rights and fairness. Or do something like Dr.King hoped, that is, don't judge a person by color.

I'm not sure that's an equivalent relation. I wasn't able to read the article, but NBA representation has a lot to do with skill and performance.

Right, the "path" to be an NBA player starts in high school. You ideally get scouted by a college with a top team and after four years you get an offer to play for an NBA team.

This is very similar to how we do admissions for most college education, except now imagine the basketball scout saying "You crushed it out there, but sorry, we have enough %race players this year".

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#83

I may have been born as a white male, but I identify as a half black, half hispanic female...should be easy now to find any job I want /s

There does seem to be a major contradiction.

“Gender is ephemeral and a personal decision but also women are different than men, let’s hire more women.”

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#84

I may have been born as a white male, but I identify as a half black, half hispanic female...should be easy now to find any job I want /s

Garbage comments like yours are what perpetuate the rift between the Asian/White (what I refer to as the "upper-class") super majority in tech and the infinitely smaller minority that are brown people and women in tech. I'm part of the latter group and there is nothing funny about how marginalized we feel around the rest of you.

White != "upper class"

Turns out you can be a poor white (like myself)...just an FYI.

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Did anyone not see this coming? The goal posts of equal _outcome_ continue to move, from university enrollment, to employment enrollment. And there are some people who want to see it go further. (What societal engineering scheme does this resemble?) With no apparent regard for what it costs. Do you want to live in a world where you are judged by the color of your skin, your gender, your "ethnicity"? Or do you think t…

Note, this lawsuit is being brought by former Google recruiters who say they were ordered to "purge" certain groups from the interview queue. > YouTube recruiters were allegedly instructed to cancel interviews with applicants who weren’t female, black or Hispanic, and to “purge entirely” the applications of people who didn’t fit those categories, the lawsuit claims. I'd like to remind people of what Denise Young Smit…

It’s a purity death spiral. Model diversity as a sacred belief with no central authorities. With no pope of social justice to tamp down on the overzealous all actors ratchet towards increasing absurd signaling behaviours, limited only when the enterprise is outcompeted.

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#86

Did anyone not see this coming? The goal posts of equal _outcome_ continue to move, from university enrollment, to employment enrollment. And there are some people who want to see it go further. (What societal engineering scheme does this resemble?) With no apparent regard for what it costs. Do you want to live in a world where you are judged by the color of your skin, your gender, your "ethnicity"? Or do you think t…

Note, this lawsuit is being brought by former Google recruiters who say they were ordered to "purge" certain groups from the interview queue. > YouTube recruiters were allegedly instructed to cancel interviews with applicants who weren’t female, black or Hispanic, and to “purge entirely” the applications of people who didn’t fit those categories, the lawsuit claims. I'd like to remind people of what Denise Young Smit…

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Did anyone not see this coming? The goal posts of equal _outcome_ continue to move, from university enrollment, to employment enrollment. And there are some people who want to see it go further. (What societal engineering scheme does this resemble?) With no apparent regard for what it costs. Do you want to live in a world where you are judged by the color of your skin, your gender, your "ethnicity"? Or do you think t…

Sure! Except when left to our own devices to "look beyond the superficial traits of a person", we usually end up hiring people who remind us ourselves. There is a place for consciously paying attention to race, ethnicity, and gender in that case. (Admittedly, the alleged situation in the headline is too far.)

From what I've seen, the workforce closely mirrors the demographics of CS and Engineering students enrolled at top universities, i.e. the educated talent pool.

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Anyone who has worked for a large tech company in SF in the last 3/4 years knows that this has happened everywhere. In fairness, Google was one of the very last ones among large tech companies to play the quota game. But the problem is that that's a game that once the first company starts playing it, everyone else is forced to play it too. Company X publishes a report with amazing diversity numbers and brands itself…

Or, instead of giving in, these companies could actually use their impressive power and reach to halt such practices and not let their brand be so affected. (Hello marketing budgets.) Big_Co is not a victim here, and portraying them as such is vastly unfair to the actual people being adversely affecting by discriminatory hiring practices. These companies can and should do better than "well everyone else is doing it!"

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Do you want to live in a world where you are judged by the color of your skin, your gender, your "ethnicity"? We already do, through systemic biases. Sadly, as the downvotes indicate, reminding people of their privilege seems to be an unpopular thing.

>Do you want to live in a world where you are judged by the color of your skin, your gender, your "ethnicity"? Reading that sentence as a black person was cringe inducing to say the least. It truly never ceases to amaze me the complete lack of awareness that white males have of their elevated position in society.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Garbage comments like yours are what perpetuate the rift between the Asian/White (what I refer to as the "upper-class") super majority in tech and the infinitely smaller minority that are brown people and women in tech. I'm part of the latter group and there is nothing funny about how marginalized we feel around the rest of you.

White != "upper class" Turns out you can be a poor white (like myself)...just an FYI.

So you being poor is justification enough to spread divisive comments and fuel further hatred (on either side)?
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