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Post by joezydeco »

prklmn wrote: post #199
joezydeco wrote: post #47

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I've switched to an Amazon ecosystem (dot, fireTv, etc) and Spotify just works seamlessly between them all. I love it. I have to wonder how many users Spotify picked up when Apple blew the christmas HomePod release and Amazon flushed out Alexa-enabled devices at heavy discounts.

The echo dot was the best selling product on amazon over Christmas. Luckily for Apple, I don’t think a $30 device will lock someone into an ecosystem.

Man, I don't know. I'm moving away from iOS/Siri/HomeKit/HomePod/iCloud(ugh) instead of moving toward it.

It might not be a lock-in, but given my track time on a non-Apple ecosystem and the value I'm getting out of Spotify compared to Apple Music...I'm not going back any time soon.

And, yeah: all it took was a $30 device.

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Post by toomanybeersies »

tomc1985 wrote: post #183
dopeboy wrote: post #96

Spotify is the reason why I don't pirate music anymore. I say this as someone who used to be involved in the scene (low level FXP couriering in the late 90s and early 00s) and has gigs of release from the RNS, EGO, etc days. It's much faster and convenient to use Spotify. I also think they cracked music discovery. Their discovery weekly playlist is stellar. My only wish is they'd get off Electron (EDIT Chromium - tha…

Their coverage of indie labels and the dance music underground still sucks. Plus I don't think their streaming is lossless and you can easily spot the difference with something as simple as a pair of $100 wireless headphones (NOT beats) hooked up to a $100 USB headphone amp.

Their streaming is not lossless. There are also two different quality levels for streaming that you can choose in settings, ensure you've selected high quality, I'm not sure what the default is.

Upon saying that, even with my Sennheiser HD 202s and Macbook built-in audio I can tell the difference between Spotify and lossless FLAC. My Australian internet is so bad that I probably couldn't even stream FLAC anyway.

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Post by gonehome »

taneq wrote: post #190
gonehome wrote: post #155

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I read it's based on human curation - this is the clever part. If you have songs in your playlist that someone else has in their playlist it'll find a song in that other playlist that you don't have. Offload the complexity of matching to humans already doing it.

Sounds kind of like pagerank for songs.

Yeah I could see that - if you think of being in a playlist like a citation.

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Post by kridsdale1 »

tomc1985 wrote: post #183
dopeboy wrote: post #96

Spotify is the reason why I don't pirate music anymore. I say this as someone who used to be involved in the scene (low level FXP couriering in the late 90s and early 00s) and has gigs of release from the RNS, EGO, etc days. It's much faster and convenient to use Spotify. I also think they cracked music discovery. Their discovery weekly playlist is stellar. My only wish is they'd get off Electron (EDIT Chromium - tha…

Their coverage of indie labels and the dance music underground still sucks. Plus I don't think their streaming is lossless and you can easily spot the difference with something as simple as a pair of $100 wireless headphones (NOT beats) hooked up to a $100 USB headphone amp.

How do you hook up wireless headphones to an amp?

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Post by Santzes »

gafasRotas wrote: post #177
oxymoron wrote: post #167

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It may also mean that they’ve expanded the user base in countries that have lower purchasing power than western europe, and thus probably lower pricing. That’s surely a good thing?

Can confirm. Countries in Latin America are getting plans for the equivalent of $1.5

I live in Thailand, and got an advertised promotion for Spotify premium for less than half a dollar for three months total. Credit card usage and online payments here are pretty low though, so that will surely lower the speed of adaptation.

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Post by toomanybeersies »

poisonarena wrote: post #123
extr wrote: post #59

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I've said it before, but Spotify is the single most valuable subscription service I pay for. Video streaming is convenient, but some of the music I've come across on Spotify has literally changed my life and that would never have happened if I was still forced to torrent everything. It's just so easy, it's everything they said the steaming model would be.

soundcloud and youtube are sooooo much better.. Glad u found some hot tracks on Spotify but mannnnnn that is like the facebook of music

Youtube is like listening to music through an aquarium. The audio quality is terrible.

Sure, there are a lot of unknown/aspiring/indie artists on Youtube and nowhere else, some of them are even quite talented, but if I can find audio literally anywhere else, I will use that instead.

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Post by dopeboy »

tomc1985 wrote: post #183
dopeboy wrote: post #96

Spotify is the reason why I don't pirate music anymore. I say this as someone who used to be involved in the scene (low level FXP couriering in the late 90s and early 00s) and has gigs of release from the RNS, EGO, etc days. It's much faster and convenient to use Spotify. I also think they cracked music discovery. Their discovery weekly playlist is stellar. My only wish is they'd get off Electron (EDIT Chromium - tha…

Their coverage of indie labels and the dance music underground still sucks. Plus I don't think their streaming is lossless and you can easily spot the difference with something as simple as a pair of $100 wireless headphones (NOT beats) hooked up to a $100 USB headphone amp.

It's not lossless, you're right. I'm an audiophile too (E10K driving DT770s) and I've never done any A/B testing between a Spotify track and a FLAC equivalent. I'm curious how much the difference is.

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Post by gehwartzen »

cirgue wrote: post #188
AlphaWeaver wrote: post #159

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Really? My only experience with Discover Weekly (and any other suggestion algorithms, i.e. radios, etc...) has been pretty terrible... It doesn't seem to suggest songs I like at all, and recently it seized upon one single song in one of my playlist and only plays covers of that song and the other songs in the album for my discover weekly for the past several weeks... I love Spotify, but I use Pandora sometimes _exclu…

I think part of the online music discovery problem is that there is zero social context for it. Using Spotify to discover new music is, at least for me, the media equivalent of eating in a restaurant alone. Sure it's doable, and it's even preferable sometimes, but you're still missing one of the core elements of the experience.

That's why I prefer 8tracks for music discovery. User generated play lists still give me a much better results than algorithms. I don't always want something that matches what I already like but instead new stuff that compliments it.

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Post by dopeboy »

paulie_a wrote: post #181
dopeboy wrote: post #96

Spotify is the reason why I don't pirate music anymore. I say this as someone who used to be involved in the scene (low level FXP couriering in the late 90s and early 00s) and has gigs of release from the RNS, EGO, etc days. It's much faster and convenient to use Spotify. I also think they cracked music discovery. Their discovery weekly playlist is stellar. My only wish is they'd get off Electron (EDIT Chromium - tha…

Your reference to fxp just made me incredibly nostalgic

It was my first internet community. Brought me into the world of IRC and VBB and programming. The 12/11/01 raids kinda ended it, atleast for me.

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Post by recursive »

cirgue wrote: post #220
recursive wrote: post #201

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What's the normal social context for discovering music? I ask this as someone who has done 99%+ of my music discovery in the last 5 years privately.

The same as the social context for books, film, or any other kind of media: you talk about and experience it with your friends.

Oh, I get it now. I had a kid, and don't really talk to friends anymore.
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