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Post by LudoA »

pyronite wrote: post #66
saym wrote: post #18

They've gone from 28 million to 71 million premium subscribers in 3 years with a declining, single digit, churn rate. I'm impressed. I'm a happy Spotify customer, I hope they continue their growth and become a pillar of the music industry.

I was a Spotify lifer until I butted up against their 10,000 song limit. [1] Now, I'm using Google Play Music. There's no doubt in my mind that everything else outside of this limit is better on Spotify. Please, Spotify, fix this! Let me help inflate your valuation! 1. https://community.spotify.com/t5/Accounts/Library-Song-Limit...

10K songs is limiting to you?! Wow, how/for what do you use Spotify?

At a (low!) estimate of 4 minutes per song, if you listen to Spotify for 3hrs/day, it would still take you 222 days to listen to all of them once.

Is this a form of data hoarding? If not, how do you use that many songs?

Re: Spotify Form F-1

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Post by sp00ls »

jqbx_jason wrote: post #52
sharkweek wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On the other side of this, I love how easy it is to find new music on Spotify! Every week, the "Discover Weekly" playlist nets me at least one or two new artists I end up loving.

If you ever get tired of Discover Weekly give JQBX[1] a try. I built it so that I could bust out of the same old genres Spotify tends to re-suggest every week. [1] https://www.jqbx.fm

This looks great, I'm definitely going to give it a try. Spotify has been slowly driving me crazy with the same exact songs in my daily mixes day after day just reshuffling.

Re: Spotify Form F-1

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Post by curiousGambler »

visarga wrote: post #78
extr wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've said it before, but Spotify is the single most valuable subscription service I pay for. Video streaming is convenient, but some of the music I've come across on Spotify has literally changed my life and that would never have happened if I was still forced to torrent everything. It's just so easy, it's everything they said the steaming model would be.

> the steaming model

Care to elaborate?

Edit: Cuz steaming? lol

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Post by jensvdh »

pythonaut_16 wrote: post #42
cronjobma wrote: post #9

It would be super interesting to see if Dropbox and Spotify do well and set an example for profitable tech companies to go public. Companies like Twitter & Snap went public too early IMHO. It’d be a great signal to young entrepreneurs to chase a business model early on.

I think one difference between Dropbox and Spotify and Twitter and Snap is that Dropbox and Spotify sell a desirable, useful product to end users. In other words, there's a clear function being offered and a clear path to giving them money in exchange for that function. While both Twitter and Snap are functional, their only real offering is a slight twist on you general social network, and their only way to make mone…

So how do you feel about Airbnb (profitable?) and Uber (still at huge losses)?

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Post by malshe »

A key metric not mentioned in the comments is premium average revenue per user (ARPU). It's consistently decreasing over the last 3 years:

2015: € 6.84

2016: € 6.20 (9% decline)

2017: € 5.32 (14% decline)

Also, the number of hours consumed per MAU as of December of each year is also increasing. I should have taken the average over the year for both but I am interested in the trend.

2015: 191 hours per year (17.4 billion/91 million)

2016: 217 hours per year (26.7 billion/123 million)

2017: 253 hours per year (40.3 billion/159 million)

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Post by chii »

LudoA wrote: post #112
pyronite wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was a Spotify lifer until I butted up against their 10,000 song limit. [1] Now, I'm using Google Play Music. There's no doubt in my mind that everything else outside of this limit is better on Spotify. Please, Spotify, fix this! Let me help inflate your valuation! 1. https://community.spotify.com/t5/Accounts/Library-Song-Limit...

10K songs is limiting to you?! Wow, how/for what do you use Spotify? At a (low!) estimate of 4 minutes per song, if you listen to Spotify for 3hrs/day, it would still take you 222 days to listen to all of them once. Is this a form of data hoarding? If not, how do you use that many songs?

if you want to have music on 10hrs a day, a 10k long playlist only lasts 20 days. and 10hrs is only half a day, and you might want to have music outside of work hours too!

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Post by kbouw »

dopeboy wrote: post #96

Spotify is the reason why I don't pirate music anymore. I say this as someone who used to be involved in the scene (low level FXP couriering in the late 90s and early 00s) and has gigs of release from the RNS, EGO, etc days. It's much faster and convenient to use Spotify. I also think they cracked music discovery. Their discovery weekly playlist is stellar. My only wish is they'd get off Electron (EDIT Chromium - tha…

What performance issues do you usually run into on the current iteration of the app? Just out of personal curiosity so I can take note next time I'm using the application.

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Post by p1esk »

stochastic_monk wrote: post #87
extr wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've said it before, but Spotify is the single most valuable subscription service I pay for. Video streaming is convenient, but some of the music I've come across on Spotify has literally changed my life and that would never have happened if I was still forced to torrent everything. It's just so easy, it's everything they said the steaming model would be.

I use Tidal more often because it has higher quality audio most of the time and a better UI, but fall back to Spotify prn. The emphasis on original music is nice. I subscribe to both because one is not a subset of the other, which I dislike. But hey, it’s been great, and I’ve actually found new music I love on Spotify/Tidal, unlike every other platform which has attempted recommendations.

Can you tell audio quality of Spotify vs Tidal in a blind test?

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Post by spike021 »

juicy-fruit wrote: post #49
steve-benjamins wrote: post #4

I really hope Spotify succeeds. I've mentioned this before on Hacker News, but as an artist, the algorithmic playlists are amazing. On a good week I get ~4,000 new listeners. It's incredible. Discovery Weekly drives the most but Release Radar and Radio also send a good chunk. Apple Music on the hand hasn't even verified my artist profile— which I need in order to view analytics. So I don't even know if people listen…

I've had Spotify before and switched to Apple Music because of the student pricing. When I had Spotify, I would discover new music and new artists all the time. Since getting Apple Music, I really haven't discovered anyone new. Although I've graduated, Apple seems to think I'm still in school and is still only charging me $5/month. The moment that ends, I'm switching to Spotify. Also, the Apple Music app on iOS is ho…

Almost posted the exact same comment.

I know Spotify has a similar student deal but for whatever reason I went with AM and now that I've graduated I've just kind of stuck with it since they still charge me the student rate.

Apple Music is incredibly awful at music discovery, and even fairly bad when it comes to just showing me music I might be interested based on what I've listened to. For example I might listen to one song somewhere without necessarily liking the genre of it, and then AM repeatedly shows me music for that genre. Not very intelligent.

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