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Re: Spotify Form F-1

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Post by kazen44 »

pythonaut_16 wrote: post #42
cronjobma wrote: post #9

It would be super interesting to see if Dropbox and Spotify do well and set an example for profitable tech companies to go public. Companies like Twitter & Snap went public too early IMHO. It’d be a great signal to young entrepreneurs to chase a business model early on.

I think one difference between Dropbox and Spotify and Twitter and Snap is that Dropbox and Spotify sell a desirable, useful product to end users. In other words, there's a clear function being offered and a clear path to giving them money in exchange for that function. While both Twitter and Snap are functional, their only real offering is a slight twist on you general social network, and their only way to make mone…

Also, spotify makes money by offering you a service, instead of data mining your information and making money that way.

Spotify is also insanely cheap in terms of getting basically all the music you would want in the world for around 10 euro's. It's a solid product with a good reason to exist, which fills a niche for many people.

Re: Spotify Form F-1

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Post by jqbx_jason »

sharkweek wrote: post #10
steve-benjamins wrote: post #4

I really hope Spotify succeeds. I've mentioned this before on Hacker News, but as an artist, the algorithmic playlists are amazing. On a good week I get ~4,000 new listeners. It's incredible. Discovery Weekly drives the most but Release Radar and Radio also send a good chunk. Apple Music on the hand hasn't even verified my artist profile— which I need in order to view analytics. So I don't even know if people listen…

On the other side of this, I love how easy it is to find new music on Spotify! Every week, the "Discover Weekly" playlist nets me at least one or two new artists I end up loving.

If you ever get tired of Discover Weekly give JQBX[1] a try. I built it so that I could bust out of the same old genres Spotify tends to re-suggest every week.

[1] https://www.jqbx.fm

Re: Spotify Form F-1

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Post by dmlittle »

wonder_bread wrote: post #31

A brilliant CEO in Elk and an unfortunate industry. It will be interesting to see how they face marginalization. The risk factors of Apple being able to retain 100% of their revenue while Spotify being forced to give away 30% back to Apple is kind of sad. It really does feel like there's continuously diminishing opportunities for companies to get in front of consumers without facing some sort of platform tax.

Where do you see this 30% fee that Spotify has to pay to Apple? The app itself is free.

Re: Spotify Form F-1

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Post by alehul »

I remember reading how Spotify charges ~equal to Netflix, and their expenses will likely be much lower due to not needing to fund 'originals' and all.

While Netflix's originals also offer a distinct advantage over their competitors and increases the cost of switching, Spotify will likely have a very profitable future as a company, and I'm curious to see if their market cap will ever approach that of Netflix.

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Post by on_and_off »

protonimitate wrote: post #30
saym wrote: post #18

They've gone from 28 million to 71 million premium subscribers in 3 years with a declining, single digit, churn rate. I'm impressed. I'm a happy Spotify customer, I hope they continue their growth and become a pillar of the music industry.

Same. I'm a Spotify lifer unless something catastrophic happens to their service or media availability. The only alternative service I even debated about was Apple Music when they first announced their streaming service, but there is no clear advantage to their service and I hate the Apple Music UI. I hope they find a way to help a bigger % of the revenue get into the hands of artists and start cutting out the big re…

disclaimer : I worked for a music streaming service for several years

I don't really like the Play Music UI (but I don't hate it either, the new parts are very nice, but the album pages could use a bit more love).

I dislike the spotify UI though (why is it THAT dark and depressive ?) and play music removes the ads from youtube (us user) and pays youtubers, so that's an easy choice.

Oh, the winning feature of Play Music for me is that I can add my own album, even if it does not belong to their catalog. It still shows with all it's metadata and cover as an album.

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Post by 1_800_UNICORN »

I want Spotify to do well, but the reason I'm cautious is the lack of true differentiation. Spotify has a great platform, but I'd worry about the level of control that the labels and artists have over their catalog, and the fact that they make a lot of money as a middleman between consumers and artists... I just feel like I could see another company coming and eating their lunch relatively easily. They're not like Netflix, who has differentiated themselves with exclusive content.

But I REALLY hope they succeed, because I've been a customer since they first announced US support.

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Post by wonder_bread »

dmlittle wrote: post #53
wonder_bread wrote: post #31

A brilliant CEO in Elk and an unfortunate industry. It will be interesting to see how they face marginalization. The risk factors of Apple being able to retain 100% of their revenue while Spotify being forced to give away 30% back to Apple is kind of sad. It really does feel like there's continuously diminishing opportunities for companies to get in front of consumers without facing some sort of platform tax.

Where do you see this 30% fee that Spotify has to pay to Apple? The app itself is free.

https://developer.apple.com/app-store/subscriptions/

Re: Spotify Form F-1

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Post by on_and_off »

dmlittle wrote: post #53
wonder_bread wrote: post #31

A brilliant CEO in Elk and an unfortunate industry. It will be interesting to see how they face marginalization. The risk factors of Apple being able to retain 100% of their revenue while Spotify being forced to give away 30% back to Apple is kind of sad. It really does feel like there's continuously diminishing opportunities for companies to get in front of consumers without facing some sort of platform tax.

Where do you see this 30% fee that Spotify has to pay to Apple? The app itself is free.

subscriptions throughout the app store.

Re: Spotify Form F-1

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Post by extr »

steve-benjamins wrote: post #4

I really hope Spotify succeeds. I've mentioned this before on Hacker News, but as an artist, the algorithmic playlists are amazing. On a good week I get ~4,000 new listeners. It's incredible. Discovery Weekly drives the most but Release Radar and Radio also send a good chunk. Apple Music on the hand hasn't even verified my artist profile— which I need in order to view analytics. So I don't even know if people listen…

I've said it before, but Spotify is the single most valuable subscription service I pay for. Video streaming is convenient, but some of the music I've come across on Spotify has literally changed my life and that would never have happened if I was still forced to torrent everything. It's just so easy, it's everything they said the steaming model would be.

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Post by H1Supreme »

actuator wrote: post #11
steve-benjamins wrote: post #4

I really hope Spotify succeeds. I've mentioned this before on Hacker News, but as an artist, the algorithmic playlists are amazing. On a good week I get ~4,000 new listeners. It's incredible. Discovery Weekly drives the most but Release Radar and Radio also send a good chunk. Apple Music on the hand hasn't even verified my artist profile— which I need in order to view analytics. So I don't even know if people listen…

Even I hope so. Discover Weekly and their curated playlists are some of the best I have seen across all music services. Even their cross platform support is the best. Play Music has a terrible app and web UI. Even Apple Music doesn't fare any better.

What's wrong with Play's UI? Seems easy enough to use. I can find music and stream my library without much fuss.
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