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Why is it hard to make friends over 30? (2012)

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Re: Why is it hard to make friends over 30? (2012)

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I think it depends on the context. It's a bigger deal to be late to a lunch invitation with one other person than to show up late to a party.

Sigh. I'm truly old. That's what etiquette is for, so you have a framework to know that context.

Well, alternatively, we can use our brains and think about questions like "if I am late to this event, will other people be waiting for me/disturbed?" to determine how serious a violation of etiquette it would be to be late.

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I don't doubt that that really deepens your appreciation, but I think even through repeated watching you can come to appreciate the game more. To give the most obvious example, someone without a lot of familiarity with football would probably be confused about why they were go back five yards behind where they were after the last play instead of the last place they got to because the penalty system isn't obvious to a…

I'm not even sure if your references to football and soccer are the same sport, or two different sports. I think they usually mean the same thing, except in certain countries where other sports (such as rugby) are called football instead.

I'm from the UK, we call soccer "football" here. The sport that people in the US call "football" we call "American Football". Many countries call soccer "football" (or variations thereof, depending on their native language). I've never heard anyone use the term "football" to describe rugby, though rugby (union) was supposedly a spinoff from football (rugby league came later). To add to the confusion, there are two other sports that have the name football, namely Gaelic Football and Aussie Rules Football, both of which are popular in their home countries.

Re: Why is it hard to make friends over 30? (2012)

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One anecdatum: I simply lost most interest in having friends by 25. I lost the rest when I had a kid. Now my friends are my daughter’s friends parents. I don’t really like them, I just end up chit chatting with them while our daughters play.

Are you male? I don't want to assume. But as a woman this is something that really concerns me about the guys I and my friends date. I see my father doing the same thing. Once they get into a stable relationship they seem to think that there's no need for a social life beyond their girlfriend, coworkers, and maybe one or two very close old friends... but those old friends tend to drift away. The reason it bothers me…

Is it possible to have a discussion about anything without someone bringing politics to it?

> He's my dad and I love him, but needless to say, when I see my partners going down the same path, it freaks me out.

Your dad is your partner?

> It seems impossible to have normal, non-political conversations with him anymore, he just doesn't have any knowledge or interest that doesn't come from TV.

And here you are doing the same thing. How about not making everything political? Things are toxic as it is. Do you need to bring toxic politics to HN?

Re: Why is it hard to make friends over 30? (2012)

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There's an old saying: "A conservative under 30 has no heart. A liberal over 30 has no brain." People age, and that includes their personalities.

It's not a great saying, and it is a myth that people naturally become conservative as they age.

It's not a myth. It's a fact. Younger people are more naive and idealistic. Older people are more skeptical and conservative.

Re: Why is it hard to make friends over 30? (2012)

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Because you aren't a kid anymore? You are older and have a wife, children, nephews, nieces and responsibilities? Not only that you have friends from childhood, high school, college, work, etc and there are only 24 hours in a day?

It's called growing up. Are we supposed to stay naive children forever without responsibilities forever?

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Fellow expat here. This problem had been on my mind for years. Like you said, the main challenge is how to spot the most compatible people in a sea of strangers that are in a similar phase in life. I built We3 to try to make this easier (and it looks like it's working!). We launched recently and matched around 30k people already. It's a mobile app where profiles are private. And it connects people in groups of 3, but…

Is there any reason why this is a mobile only app? I have a strong preferences not to use apps that are mobile only. And I firmly believe that communicating on mobile has a hard time turning into something more substantial. People nowadays are used to quick status updates while on mobile. Look at the popularity of Snapchat. Why bother writing something when I could just post a picture on Instagram? It is difficult to…

Yeah, totally get what you're saying, but unfortunately people's behavior and perception of the product is different when something is on mobile, especially with an online matching service. Tinder was able to break down the stigma of online dating because they were on mobile only. I'm hoping We3 will be able to break that stigma for friendship matching.

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I'm not even sure if your references to football and soccer are the same sport, or two different sports. I think they usually mean the same thing, except in certain countries where other sports (such as rugby) are called football instead.

I'm from the UK, we call soccer "football" here. The sport that people in the US call "football" we call "American Football". Many countries call soccer "football" (or variations thereof, depending on their native language). I've never heard anyone use the term "football" to describe rugby, though rugby (union) was supposedly a spinoff from football (rugby league came later). To add to the confusion, there are two ot…

I originated in New Zealand, and football generally meant rugby. Maybe things have changed since then or maybe I don't remember correctly.

I didn't realise American football could be abbreviated to football. We also knew it as gridiron, and it always seemed like the very definition of boring, repetitive sport. Guy takes the ball, runs at the opposition, is taken down, everybody stands around chatting for ~10 minutes, repeat :)

Re: Why is it hard to make friends over 30? (2012)

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I've been amazed at how unfriendly neighbours are in the same building with multiple rented apartments. Literally the only interactions I've had with neighbours over the last 3 years is when they finally overcome their disinclination to interact to come, furious, to the door to ask that some music or TV program be turned down. I always smile and say hello to the people living in the same building, and at least 70% of…

I noticed this behavior as well here in vancouver. It's like an unwritten rule that you need to not interact with your apartment neighbors. I always suspected being house poor has to do something with it. One time I overheard a neighbor who was complaining on the phone about how debt ridden she was. I guess when you are barely scraping you don't have any emotional space to acknowledge people. I suspect it's worse for…

I found it is a middle class thing. Most poor areas i lived in, neighbors banded together. Similar with the affluent crowd. The middle are usually more busy and stressed and take their stress out on those around them. Family, coworkers, neighbors.

Its just my experince, but there it is.

Re: Why is it hard to make friends over 30? (2012)

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Because there are no good generic (read: not gyms) areas for repeatedly mixing people at that age since you're no longer in any kind of educational institution. Also, children.

So, join a gym?

The childeren thing goes both ways. I know tons of people I wouldnt ever say hello to due to events around children. Lots of bored loney parents standing around while johnny picks grass in the outfield makes for a great way to meet people.

Re: Why is it hard to make friends over 30? (2012)

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It is hard to make friends. In some ways, we turn to online communities. Take for example HN. A great resource of intelligent knowledgeable people. But because the focus here is on high signal to noise postings, relationship building is not exactly encouraged. If there is one thing I'd like in a site like this, is a dual-mode. e.g. High-quality posts in the thread, but a side mode for chat.

I would love this.

Are there any HN, or generally similar quality chatrooms, maybe discord? I have seen a few, but most were code focused rather than social.

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