I have never be able to make [close] friends, especially same-sex friends. It bothered me when I was younger, but not much anymore (I'm 35 now). I get enough social interaction at work, my spouse is very close friend of mine, and kids and hobbies keep me busy. Only on occasions like wedding, name giving parties etc. having no friends bothers me little but I've three siblings. It's interesting that the recommendation…
Why is it hard to make friends over 30? (2012)
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Re: Why is it hard to make friends over 30? (2012)
#482American here: I've had the problem at a few different times in my life that, whenever I actually suggested to guy friends that we hang out, they interpreted it as a pass and thought I was gay. I'm not making this up at all. I think part of the problem is not just the way that priorities change as we get older but the fact that the US seems to have an extremely closed-off and anxiety-ridden culture to begin with. May…
I can see "hey, let's hang out" in the generic form might be considered a bit odd and like a pass.
"Man, today was rough." ... "Yeah, same here. Want to grab a drink at the Kings Head this evening?"
I don't know anyone who would interpret the latter form as a pass. Because there's some justification, no matter how thin, and it's a concrete proposal to do something specific.
Re: Why is it hard to make friends over 30? (2012)
#483Earlier quoted context omitted.
This comment comes from me travelling all the time between Asia, Europe and the US. And comparing the volume of people in different countries, usually US or wealthy China vs. France (my country) or Italy or Japan. The difference is striking. It doesn't come from the fact that Americans or wealthy Chinese have some physiological problem: they just eat TONS of food and drink pure sugar (last one is for the US). One sho…
I’m not saying that obesity does not come from eating too much and/or eating the wrong type of food. I’m talking about the mechanisms that drive this behavior, and what it takes to beat them. Willpower is not enough to beat actual, chronic/morbid obesity. The only known solution is surgery. Your comments are bordering on fat-shaming, which I find completely unacceptable.
Not the "ha ha ha, look at this guy, gross" fat-shaming, but the "stop lying to yourself and publicly expressing the fact that I should treat you in a special way" fat-shaming.
I understand that not everyone has will power. I understand that this means that these people will be overweight.
What I do not understand is that we need to be extra careful with their feelings, not offend anyone and treat the whole thing as if it was normal. I find it unacceptable that a life posture which is driven, in the overwhelming number of cases, by laziness and treating one's body as a trashbin is supposed to be approached with special care.
2% of this population will have the mental disease which does not allow them to actually take care about themselves. I honestly pity them (see below). The others actively and consciously act towards their obesity.
This is the same as with cigarettes: you are free to smoke (away from me) but please do not beg for my tax euros later when you have a cancer derived from that. Or expect that I will live with the cigarette smell. Or that I will fly with half of your body on mine, because you are "weight impaired".
Before the gates of hell open, a few remarks:
- I am profoundly for a social state, like we have in France. I am happy to pay taxes so that people who are unfairly hit by life have the same chance as i have to live a normal life. I always had this state of mind, and now even more with a handicapped wife and a sick child.
- I believe that a mature person has to face the music: if you want to go for mountain climbing and freeze at 8000 m in winter on that difficult slope, this a choice of yours. If you eat like a hippo, well this is your choice as well so do not be offended if you need to go to a zoo to get an x-ray (a case of a few years ago).
- Some people are just unlucky in life and we should do whatever we can to help these people. Unfortunately, the vast majority of overeaters are very vocal about their suffering (between two burgers) and it silences the minority who actually has a problem. This minority takes the hit. This is horrible, I witness it all the time with my wife who uses a disabled parking because she cannot walk too much (and has other problems) and people are looking at her because she looks normal.
Finally about the gastric surgery: if you pay for it, no problem. This is not going to change your mind and your children will probably be overweight (or not, I hope not).
If I have to pay for this comfort, I do not agree. Too bad for you, you will die earlier because you want to. I will keep that money for the 2% who actually have a disease.
Re: Why is it hard to make friends over 30? (2012)
#484As a gay man who is almost 30, I think making friends is relatively easy for gay people thanks to dating apps. Perhaps, you cannot same gender friends in Tinder (if I'm wrong, please correct me), but a lot of gay people are using dating apps not only to find relationships but also to find friends. I also think social isolation around gay people makes friendship among gay people special. I don't know much about Wester…
Re: Why is it hard to make friends over 30? (2012)
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#486This was something that was discussed recently in one of the Pokemon Go FB Messenger groups I'm in. The group is mostly people in their 30's and 40's, and some of the people don't have any friends outside of the group. The game has basically brought them a network of friends that they didn't have before. And because "raids" (in-game battles of giant Pokemon) require multiple people and for you to physically go somewh…
Was going to post something similar here. I've got plenty of friends from prior to playing PoGo, but I see my PoGo friends more frequently because PoGo provides a common reason to meet up with them / be in the same physical location. It's definitely a somewhat unique phenomenon, and I like both the effect (seeing friends more regularly) and being able to experience it from the inside. It does, however, give me the fe…
Sounds like sports or any hobby that involves other people. But I haven't played it so maybe I'm missing what's unique about it.
Re: Why is it hard to make friends over 30? (2012)
#487By this time people have suffered a lot. Faced economic hardships. I used to make friends regardless of their socioeconomic background but the ones who were poor, always made me feel as if they are poor because of people like me. I am rich. They could justify every worse thing they did to me, just because they thought I had it easy and they had to struggle much. I never got to understand how these guys can justify sc…
Great example was in the show Friends. There was this episode when Febie? and Joey were broke as f--k and they got all bent out a joint having to be in situations with the others where they were spending more money than they could afford just to keep up appearances. And then they got even more hurt because of then the others pivoted to pity and charity.
Anyway, you're still thriving to it's all a wash in the end.
Re: Why is it hard to make friends over 30? (2012)
#488People are a sum of their life experiences. People who are older, have more that goes into that equation. More often equates to complexity and intricacy, like a complicated key, that becomes harder and harder to find a lock for. In my early 20's, I was more open to hanging around people I know I didn't like, or wasn't compatible with, because I didn't want to be alone or without friends, craved attention, and saw eve…
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#489Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I have a clock always visible in my line of sight at my desk, but many times, I can't get myself to actually read the time off it, even though it's right there (and it's digital). Some clocks can be programmed to make noise nowadays at a certain time.
That's not the issue. The issue is that for whatever reason, my brain is refusing to allow me to become aware of the time. The presentation format of the time doesn't matter. It's tough to fight this, because the person you're fighting is yourself, and you're just as smart as you are, so you can't outsmart or trick yourself. Sometimes, some technique will work for a day or two, but the brain adapts very quickly and l…
I'm very absent-minded and frequently forget things like eating and cleaning, but out of respect for other people, I frequently take notes and set alarms, which at least helps me stick to agreed schedules.
Another useful way to manage it is to schedule things loosely when possible. Agree to meet at some point in the span of an hour under circumstances where neither party will be bored waiting. For example, invite the other party over an hour before going to a see a film.
Re: Why is it hard to make friends over 30? (2012)
#490Get a hobby. Start going to a place where people practice it. I'm over 30 and board games work well for me. Most people I play with are younger. The oldest of us, resembling the one from French Connection, is a former programmer(?) and regularly mops the floor with other players, often at games he's playing for the first time. I heard he attends dancing lessons too. I think it's a matter of getting your priorities ri…
It seems you might be rationalizing your lower-income a bit. Let me try to explain why. I agree about the work-life balance, but at 30 you're in the best shape you'll ever be: physically & mentally. In my opinion there is some sense in sacrificing a bit of the present in order to make the future more palatable. Especially at the age of 30. A bit of extra effort at this age can save a lot of trouble down the road. Gra…