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Conde Nast refuses to run Prop 19 ads on reddit

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Re: Conde Nast refuses to run Prop 19 ads on reddit

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After all these years, it looks like the publishing industry is still threatened by marijuana.

Could be they're not threatened by marijuana so much as their other advertisers.

It's not difficult to imagine an account with much deeper pockets and an opposing agenda making it clear that if CN takes money from "pro-drug" advertisers, then they'll pull their own.

Re: Conde Nast refuses to run Prop 19 ads on reddit

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I can't believe that comments like this are upmodded but yet HN has the audacity to tout some air of supremacy while laughing at the notion of a "digg vs reddit" flame war. The community remains remarkably split on adblock use (especially on sites they like, etc). There are people that oppose plenty of drug use (calling pot a drug is disingenuous for shock factor of "calling out" reddit) and being antigay is yes, unp…

The more surprising thing IMHO is the air of superiority that Reddit users have over religion, and especially over people who watch Fox News etc. Now I'm not for one minute defending people who only watch Fox News, but there are people who only get their news from Reddit. So instead of a blinkered, biased, inaccurate kneejerkist feed of stories from Fox, they get a blinkered, biased, inaccurate kneejerkist feed of st…

>the air of superiority that Reddit users have over religion

Arguing that it should be taken seriously without evidence really doesn't help your case.

Re: Conde Nast refuses to run Prop 19 ads on reddit

#53
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I wonder why Conde Nast even bought reddit in the first place. It's cool that they let them run the web site as an independent entity more or less, but it really seems like they don't like supporting them (see Reddit Gold).

They probably thought they were buying a broad general "What news will look like in the future" website. In fact they ended up with a liberal pro drug, pro gay, pro adblock, anti capitalism, anti consumerism, anti advertising, athiest website. As time has gone on Reddits userbase seems to have become narrower and narrower even though it's obviously grown massively. Maybe it's groupthink at work, or maybe it's just co…

So... They didn't to a single minute of due diligence?

Re: Conde Nast refuses to run Prop 19 ads on reddit

#54
post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can't believe that comments like this are upmodded but yet HN has the audacity to tout some air of supremacy while laughing at the notion of a "digg vs reddit" flame war. The community remains remarkably split on adblock use (especially on sites they like, etc). There are people that oppose plenty of drug use (calling pot a drug is disingenuous for shock factor of "calling out" reddit) and being antigay is yes, unp…

The more surprising thing IMHO is the air of superiority that Reddit users have over religion, and especially over people who watch Fox News etc. Now I'm not for one minute defending people who only watch Fox News, but there are people who only get their news from Reddit. So instead of a blinkered, biased, inaccurate kneejerkist feed of stories from Fox, they get a blinkered, biased, inaccurate kneejerkist feed of st…

I don't watch general news on reddit (and I don't subscribe to /r/atheism, which is almost unbelievably bad, though I'm an atheist), but subreddits that I'm interested in seems to present much more diverse opinion. /r/energy isn't that small and while it's generally very pro-nuclear, there are, time to time, anti-nuclear opinions and a lot of "renewables" as well. And there aren't that many places to get opinions and news about such topics (that can match reddit in diversity and even in objectivity).

Re: Conde Nast refuses to run Prop 19 ads on reddit

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>This was a decision made at the highest levels of Conde Nast. Doesn't this put the lie to their "we're our own business and don't have anything to do with Conde Nast, that's why we need your charity" line?

> Doesn't this put the lie to their "we're our own business and don't have anything to do with Conde Nast, that's why we need your charity" line?

The fact they have take the decision to run the ads for free possibly puts lie to ''that'' :)

Re: Conde Nast refuses to run Prop 19 ads on reddit

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If I were Conde Nast, the fallout would be firing them, and yes I'm aware this may kill reddit. You were bought. Reddit does not belong to you, and you don't get to decide what to do with it. If you can't handle that then you should never have sold, or in this case you should quit.

Well the higher-ups could actually have been honest when they said they just didn't want to benefit financially, and might have approved the free ads.

There might be some really severe legal consequences to running those free ads. I'm not familiar with campaign finance but it's possible that the law considers Reddit's action to be a "donation" with a large equivalent cash value.

Re: Conde Nast refuses to run Prop 19 ads on reddit

#57
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The power of reddit (and for that matter hackernews) is the top-voted comment on most articles is a thorough debunking/rebuttal. I'll often read articles that seem perfectly reasonable but are quickly ripped to shreds by the community. So while you are getting a pre-filtered view of the news, you're not getting a single viewpoint on that news. Furthermore (edit), the subreddits that you subscribe to radically change…

That's not the case at all IMHO. The top voted comment is just whatever the groupthink agrees is the 'right' stance on that issue. Over time online communities such as HN and Reddit gravitate towards a specific set of viewpoints. It means that you start only seeing certain types of article, you only see certain types of comments, comments that 'toe the party line' are upvoted to top, etc. The other funny thing is how…

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Re: Conde Nast refuses to run Prop 19 ads on reddit

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I'm not familiar with Conde Nast's publications. Do they traditionally avoid political issue ads? If so I don't see any good reason why Reddit would be an exception. It sounds like they want to avoid the issue entirely and won't run anti Prob 19 ads either. I don't think that's unreasonable. I also have to question the value of any pro Prob 19 group spending money to advertise on Reddit. They'd be better off targetin…

There's actually quite a few ads on Reddit that I've seen about "Avoiding the Obama Homesexual Agenda" (not to mention Scientology), so it seems more like Conde Nast is protecting their specific interests. Or at least, not allowing ads that oppose their views.

To be fair, those are all served by Google, they're not direct sales (like the Prop 19 ones seemed to be). We (not reddit) spent lots of time blocking Scientology and other moronic adwords ads back when we were running adsense. They sprout up like weeds.

Re: Conde Nast refuses to run Prop 19 ads on reddit

#59

After all these years, it looks like the publishing industry is still threatened by marijuana.

Could be they're not threatened by marijuana so much as their other advertisers. It's not difficult to imagine an account with much deeper pockets and an opposing agenda making it clear that if CN takes money from "pro-drug" advertisers, then they'll pull their own.

I was mostly pointing out the irony that Conde Nast is continuing the legacy of William Randolph Hearst. My assertion isn't completely implausible though.

Re: Conde Nast refuses to run Prop 19 ads on reddit

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

If I were Conde Nast, the fallout would be firing them, and yes I'm aware this may kill reddit. You were bought. Reddit does not belong to you, and you don't get to decide what to do with it. If you can't handle that then you should never have sold, or in this case you should quit.

I completely agree with you. Either you take the cash or you don't. But if you take the cash, you shouldn't be mourning afterwards about not having enough money (while spending close to 1/2 million a year on ec2) and not being able to decide which ads you run on the site you simply don't own anymore.

Deciding to make it public how much you care about your users opinions of you advertising might convince a few people to turn off AdBlock. Reddit already has a reasonable number of free/unsold ad spaces.
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