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Re: Conde Nast refuses to run Prop 19 ads on reddit

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Post by enjo »

points wrote: post #28
malbiniak wrote: post #11

Since we're not allowed to benefit financially, reddit is now running the ads for free. Nice hack, reddit.

It's farcical. It's just circlejerking. The idea that advertising pro-prop19 to Reddit would have made any sense in the first place is just ridiculous given that they're all pretty much uniformly in favor of it. It's fun to watch them run around being outraged boycotting and generally wasting their own time though.

It's an important way to maintain voter awareness and actually motivate them to vote when they get the chance. In politics, it's often more important to advertise directly to your base than anywhere else.

Re: Conde Nast refuses to run Prop 19 ads on reddit

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Post by enjo »

ars wrote: post #24
famousactress wrote: post #9

The fact that they're running them for free is kinda interesting. Going from corporate censoring the ads, to reddit essentially giving the campaign a huge contribution. It'll be interesting to see what the fall-out from this is.

If I were Conde Nast, the fallout would be firing them, and yes I'm aware this may kill reddit. You were bought. Reddit does not belong to you, and you don't get to decide what to do with it. If you can't handle that then you should never have sold, or in this case you should quit.

It's actually really interesting. I've read a lot of articles about the perils of Gen-Y in the workplace, what about when Gen-Y runs your portfolio company?

Re: Conde Nast refuses to run Prop 19 ads on reddit

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Post by maw »

jsz0 wrote: post #15

I'm not familiar with Conde Nast's publications. Do they traditionally avoid political issue ads? If so I don't see any good reason why Reddit would be an exception. It sounds like they want to avoid the issue entirely and won't run anti Prob 19 ads either. I don't think that's unreasonable. I also have to question the value of any pro Prob 19 group spending money to advertise on Reddit. They'd be better off targetin…

The ones I'm familiar with are the New Yorker (respectable, and I was a subscriber when I lived in the US) and Wired (not so much, and no effin way), but I have a hard time imagining typical readers of either getting bent out of shape by marijuana use. (I mean, the New Yorker isn't the Atlantic!)

Less sure about their other rags, though.

Re: Conde Nast refuses to run Prop 19 ads on reddit

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Post by wvenable »

points wrote: post #21
drivebyacct2 wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can't believe that comments like this are upmodded but yet HN has the audacity to tout some air of supremacy while laughing at the notion of a "digg vs reddit" flame war. The community remains remarkably split on adblock use (especially on sites they like, etc). There are people that oppose plenty of drug use (calling pot a drug is disingenuous for shock factor of "calling out" reddit) and being antigay is yes, unp…

The more surprising thing IMHO is the air of superiority that Reddit users have over religion, and especially over people who watch Fox News etc. Now I'm not for one minute defending people who only watch Fox News, but there are people who only get their news from Reddit. So instead of a blinkered, biased, inaccurate kneejerkist feed of stories from Fox, they get a blinkered, biased, inaccurate kneejerkist feed of st…

The power of reddit (and for that matter hackernews) is the top-voted comment on most articles is a thorough debunking/rebuttal. I'll often read articles that seem perfectly reasonable but are quickly ripped to shreds by the community. So while you are getting a pre-filtered view of the news, you're not getting a single viewpoint on that news.

Furthermore (edit), the subreddits that you subscribe to radically change the articles you encounter on the homepage.

Re: Conde Nast refuses to run Prop 19 ads on reddit

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Post by points »

dailyrorschach wrote: post #29
points wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's farcical. It's just circlejerking. The idea that advertising pro-prop19 to Reddit would have made any sense in the first place is just ridiculous given that they're all pretty much uniformly in favor of it. It's fun to watch them run around being outraged boycotting and generally wasting their own time though.

Actually it makes a lot of sense to advertise to this group to ensure they do actually vote. You can't take your public for granted.

Fair point, but I expect the front page will be literally full of "VOTE" items at the right time.

Re: Conde Nast refuses to run Prop 19 ads on reddit

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Post by wvenable »

farmerbuzz wrote: post #30
cilantro wrote: post #22

After all these years, it looks like the publishing industry is still threatened by marijuana.

Perhaps its not that they're threatened by marijuana but disinclined to accept controversial and divisive advertising?

They already accept controversial and divisive advertising. Here is an example: http://i.imgur.com/pRN0K.jpg

Re: Conde Nast refuses to run Prop 19 ads on reddit

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Post by farmerbuzz »

wvenable wrote: post #47
farmerbuzz wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Perhaps its not that they're threatened by marijuana but disinclined to accept controversial and divisive advertising?

They already accept controversial and divisive advertising. Here is an example: http://i.imgur.com/pRN0K.jpg

Wow. Nevermind then!

Re: Conde Nast refuses to run Prop 19 ads on reddit

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Post by points »

wvenable wrote: post #45
points wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The more surprising thing IMHO is the air of superiority that Reddit users have over religion, and especially over people who watch Fox News etc. Now I'm not for one minute defending people who only watch Fox News, but there are people who only get their news from Reddit. So instead of a blinkered, biased, inaccurate kneejerkist feed of stories from Fox, they get a blinkered, biased, inaccurate kneejerkist feed of st…

The power of reddit (and for that matter hackernews) is the top-voted comment on most articles is a thorough debunking/rebuttal. I'll often read articles that seem perfectly reasonable but are quickly ripped to shreds by the community. So while you are getting a pre-filtered view of the news, you're not getting a single viewpoint on that news. Furthermore (edit), the subreddits that you subscribe to radically change…

That's not the case at all IMHO. The top voted comment is just whatever the groupthink agrees is the 'right' stance on that issue.

Over time online communities such as HN and Reddit gravitate towards a specific set of viewpoints.

It means that you start only seeing certain types of article, you only see certain types of comments, comments that 'toe the party line' are upvoted to top, etc.

The other funny thing is how much Redditors etc love to sneer down their noses at the 'idiots' who watch TV. They don't seem to realize that spending hours on reddit looking at funny pictures, being outraged by liberal news etc isn't really any better than watching American Idol and being outraged by the stuff on Fox news.

Re: Conde Nast refuses to run Prop 19 ads on reddit

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Post by kleevr »

bluelu wrote: post #31
pbhjpbhj wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's kinda my point - if reddit can not be allowed the freedom then CN (or AP or the Newhouse Family) have control over reddit and not reddit themselves. The donations requested are thus donations to the billionaire Newhouse cause and not to an independently run reddit. That's just how it appears to me.

CN bought reddit so they can do whatever they want to do with reddit. Either you take the cash or you leave it.

True, but there's also the massive anarchistic user base. /r/all is/was yelling censorship top to bottom. Starting to look a lot like the Digg Revolt[1] circa '07 regarding the 09 F9 .. censorship.

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AACS_encryption_key_controversy...

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