> as long as they pay those workers at least the minimum wage Do US employeers not have to pay workers the minimum wage?
Women would lose $4.6B in earned tips if ‘tip stealing’ rule is finalized
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Re: Women would lose $4.6B in earned tips if ‘tip stealing’ rule is finalized
#32"DOL has masked the fact that this rule would be a windfall to restaurant owners and other employers—out of the pockets of tipped workers—by making it sound as if this rule is about tip pooling." Sounds like this one must've been written by lobbyists? Assuming this article is accurate, why would this seem like a good rule to get rid of?
EPI gets a large chunk of funding from unionized labor, so it shouldn't be surprising if most of their findings are pro unionized labor.
http://smallbusiness.chron.com/organized-labor-restaurant-in...
Re: Women would lose $4.6B in earned tips if ‘tip stealing’ rule is finalized
#33Re: Women would lose $4.6B in earned tips if ‘tip stealing’ rule is finalized
#34> as long as they pay those workers at least the minimum wage Do US employeers not have to pay workers the minimum wage?
Depends on the state. In California, they have to be paid at least minimum wage regardless.
Re: Women would lose $4.6B in earned tips if ‘tip stealing’ rule is finalized
#35Earlier quoted context omitted.
Counter point -- Tipping is a way to insure excellent service on return visits to service oriented establishments.
And the wait staff has so much control over restaurant cleanliness, food quality and temperature etc etc etc...
Re: Women would lose $4.6B in earned tips if ‘tip stealing’ rule is finalized
#36Please just get rid of it for living wages.
Re: Women would lose $4.6B in earned tips if ‘tip stealing’ rule is finalized
#37So how, as a customer, could I actively tip my wait staff and not the establishment? Will this lead to the abolishment of tipping in general?
God, I hope it does. Tipping is just a way for restaurant owners to exclude the cost of labor from their listed prices.
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#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
God, I hope it does. Tipping is just a way for restaurant owners to exclude the cost of labor from their listed prices.
Counter point -- Tipping is a way to insure excellent service on return visits to service oriented establishments.
Japan is a good example. In the food service industry, establishments will usually put their own service charge which they think is reasonable onto the bill (usually a small amount). They don't expect (many will refuse to take) further tips because they price the cost to serve into it.
Re: Women would lose $4.6B in earned tips if ‘tip stealing’ rule is finalized
#39"DOL has masked the fact that this rule would be a windfall to restaurant owners and other employers—out of the pockets of tipped workers—by making it sound as if this rule is about tip pooling." Sounds like this one must've been written by lobbyists? Assuming this article is accurate, why would this seem like a good rule to get rid of?
Pure guess but probably to allow for proper taxing of tips. Cash tips are notoriously underreported. I’ve never met any who receives them who claims the full value as income. Most will claim some min to meet a “normal” amount for a work day and pocket the rest. A law like this would shift that to be income received by the management which presumably they’d have to properly account for. Even if they give it all back i…