> as long as they pay those workers at least the minimum wage Do US employeers not have to pay workers the minimum wage?
Depends on the state. In California, they have to be paid at least minimum wage regardless.
Women would lose $4.6B in earned tips if ‘tip stealing’ rule is finalized
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Re: Women would lose $4.6B in earned tips if ‘tip stealing’ rule is finalized
#12Earlier quoted context omitted.
God, I hope it does. Tipping is just a way for restaurant owners to exclude the cost of labor from their listed prices.
Counter point -- Tipping is a way to insure excellent service on return visits to service oriented establishments.
So, I assume you never tip when traveling?
Re: Women would lose $4.6B in earned tips if ‘tip stealing’ rule is finalized
#13Earlier quoted context omitted.
God, I hope it does. Tipping is just a way for restaurant owners to exclude the cost of labor from their listed prices.
Counter point -- Tipping is a way to insure excellent service on return visits to service oriented establishments.
Only if you see the exact same wait staff, places with high turnover make past tipping meaningless.
Re: Women would lose $4.6B in earned tips if ‘tip stealing’ rule is finalized
#14Earlier quoted context omitted.
God, I hope it does. Tipping is just a way for restaurant owners to exclude the cost of labor from their listed prices.
Counter point -- Tipping is a way to insure excellent service on return visits to service oriented establishments.
And the wait staff has so much control over restaurant cleanliness, food quality and temperature etc etc etc...
Re: Women would lose $4.6B in earned tips if ‘tip stealing’ rule is finalized
#15Earlier quoted context omitted.
God, I hope it does. Tipping is just a way for restaurant owners to exclude the cost of labor from their listed prices.
Counter point -- Tipping is a way to insure excellent service on return visits to service oriented establishments.
I seem to receive worse service in the US than in almost any other country I've been to.
Other countries: you get the waiter's attention when you want to order something. Normally, it goes smoothly and they leave you alone.
US: the waiter comes over every five minutes to check on you, annoying you and interrupting conversations. They pretend to be nice and overly friendly, and often flirt with you for money. Alternatively, they might forget to check on you, but social norms engendered by the behavior of the group that do make it seem rude to wave or call to get their attention.
Worst of all, the waiter is incentivized to turn over as many tables as possible so they do everything in their power to hurry you through your meal.
Re: Women would lose $4.6B in earned tips if ‘tip stealing’ rule is finalized
#16And men would lose $1.2B. Why the gendered title? Why not "Waiters would lose $5.8B in earned tips"?
Re: Women would lose $4.6B in earned tips if ‘tip stealing’ rule is finalized
#17And men would lose $1.2B. Why the gendered title? Why not "Waiters would lose $5.8B in earned tips"?
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Re: Women would lose $4.6B in earned tips if ‘tip stealing’ rule is finalized
#18And men would lose $1.2B. Why the gendered title? Why not "Waiters would lose $5.8B in earned tips"?
To highlight who the biggest losers are -- the subset of workers that already face wage discrimination would face 80% of the tip loss.
Re: Women would lose $4.6B in earned tips if ‘tip stealing’ rule is finalized
#19And men would lose $1.2B. Why the gendered title? Why not "Waiters would lose $5.8B in earned tips"?
>Why the gendered title?
I think you know why.
Re: Women would lose $4.6B in earned tips if ‘tip stealing’ rule is finalized
#20"DOL has masked the fact that this rule would be a windfall to restaurant owners and other employers—out of the pockets of tipped workers—by making it sound as if this rule is about tip pooling." Sounds like this one must've been written by lobbyists? Assuming this article is accurate, why would this seem like a good rule to get rid of?
EPI gets a large chunk of funding from unionized labor, so it shouldn't be surprising if most of their findings are pro unionized labor.