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Tesla Model 3 Sets New EV Cannonball Run Record

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Re: Tesla Model 3 Sets New EV Cannonball Run Record

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Post by _ph_ »

arkh wrote: post #112

How much time spent charging? Charging time is what make petrol win. Drive 500 miles, take 5mn to charge up and you're good for 500 more miles. Until EV can do this (surely through charging stations like petrol cars) they won't good at anything more than daily commute if you can plug your car at at home and at work. So battery technology is where the interest should be. We already know how to make efficient electric…

Yes, refuling will always be faster than recharging. That is physics. The question rather is: at which point (and for which driver profile) is it no longer a practical problem? Elektric cars already save you a lot of refuling stops in day-to-day driving, if you plug them in over night. And the Tesla supercharger network is basically almost fast enough, that it reasonably fits with the breaks one would take on long trips when not racing for time. And of course, electric cars give you all the benefits of electric cars, like no exhaust, no noise and better torque, no gear shifts.

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Post by arcticfox »

reaperducer wrote: post #111
indescions_2018 wrote: post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

$TSLA will sell a lot of cars this year, irrevocably altering the EV game. Price target $350 by Jan 2019. But it pales in comparison to the watershed moment SpaceX and the entire spaceflight community will have. There is a real possibility for 28 launches, including two Falcon Heavy's. NASA TESS on track to discover an explosion in habitable zone exoplanets. Vector, Electron, TechShot and other private space data lea…

> NASA TESS on track to discover an explosion in habitable zone exoplanets. Not a factor. Until we can travel many multiples faster than light, it doesn't matter how many things we can see far, far away. You and I will both be centuries dead before that happens.

> it doesn't matter how many things we can see far, far away.

Why does it "not matter" since we can't land on them in our lifetimes? It's still interesting.

Re: Tesla Model 3 Sets New EV Cannonball Run Record

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Post by reaperducer »

ep103 wrote: post #63
EwanToo wrote: post #13

I'm a Tesla fan, but in the middle of the article, it says: "The two completed the cross-country drive in 50 hours and 16 minutes, setting a new electric Cannonball Run record." That's not quite the same as the headline... It looks like petrol cars have done it in under 27 hours http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2015/03/ny-la-26-hours-28-m...

For people who don't follow this, records for the cannonball run are usually always a few years old (people wait to announce hoping the statue of limitations expires, or at least makes it less likely). That said, its unlikely to change too much, most recent records were done in wildly expensive cars (retrofitted with additional gas tanks, radar, police scanners, etc), and usually include aerial support for the entire…

It's not a real Cannonball Run unless you do it in a Trans Am with a tractor trailer full of Coors.

Re: Tesla Model 3 Sets New EV Cannonball Run Record

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Post by sgc »

semi-extrinsic wrote: post #51
maxerickson wrote: post #11

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Per month. But given how much faster they are with the other models and how bad their estimates have been for the Model 3, it just means we don't know how many vehicles they will average per day this year.

It's worth noting, though, that for the Model S and X the assembly lines were not built by Tesla. The Model 3 assembly line is the first one Tesla's ever made themselves. The "old" Tesla factory was bought from a joint GM-Toyota venture that achieved average production of 25 000 vehicles per month running those lines for 25 years. Then that venture failed, Tesla bought the factory and repurposed the existing infrastr…

It's not really like that at all. To begin with, a Roadster / model S is not a repurposed Toyota - and that is exactly why Tesla has succeeded so far. Further, they completely reworked those lines with a huge amount of new equipment, to the point that is was worth it to them to buy the robotics manufacturer. It is closer to a technicality than starting from scratch. And as far as anyone knows, a huge part of the bottleneck hasn't even been in Fremont, but at the gigafactory (which they also built prior to the 3) - with a supplier who they have since removed from the equation.

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Post by wils1245 »

kumarvvr wrote: post #28
hnarn wrote: post #20

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It's always been my sincere opinion that even if Musk fails miserably I'll still admire him more than most other "tech idols". There are people that say he's all talk, but I don't care. Even if he's 75% talk and delivers on the rest, whatever he does achieve is still better than a face-detecting smartphone or a social network that makes money by profiling your personality for advertisers. I don't care about the money…

> There are people that say he's all talk I really wish there is stronger support for him against these sorts of people. How can he be all talk when we see his rockets going up and coming back down.

How can you look at the valuation of Tesla and think that Musk lacks public support? The company is worth more than Ford, while delivering a fraction of the cars. The difference in output is made up by faith in his promises.

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Post by _Codemonkeyism »

jhall1468 wrote: post #75
_Codemonkeyism wrote: post #3

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Easier to annouce a Pickup than deliver a Model 3.

Well yes, just as it's easier to make snarky comments than provide actual content, as evidenced by your post.

My fail, I forgot it's sacrilege to critizize Musk here.

Model 3 production is way behind and currently does not look like it progressing. Musk is blaming Panasonic on the problems with batteries, while reports from the Model 3 factory tell about a lot of manual work.

So yes it is easier to announce a Pickup some years ahead than fix Model 3 production.

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Post by Retric »

mikeash wrote: post #84
noveltyaccount wrote: post #76

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> With a Volt, there are places that you just can’t go. To be fair, you can charge any EV fairly quickly at any campground with 220V RV hookups. With adequate planning, I think you could drive a Bolt anywhere.

I wouldn’t describe the ~30MPH you get from a 240V RV plug as “fairly quickly.” It’s fine for an overnight charge, but you’ll basically be limited to driving the car’s single-charge range each day. It’s possible but I wouldn’t want to try it.

You can go from east to west coast in the US in 10 days while limiting yourself to ~210 miles per day. For a retired person with little need to hurry that's reasonable even with only nightly charging.

Personally, I have little interest in driving 600+ miles per day making fast charging minimally useful.

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Post by arcticfox »

tgarma1234 wrote: post #46
timmonsjg wrote: post #39

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>People don't get a free pass on being creeps just because they are blowing a lot of money anymore The man wants his car designs to evoke an image of being sexy and you consider him a creep? That's a way over-dramatic interpretation.

Yes, if you overtly sexualize something for which there is no real reason to take the conversation in that direction then you are very likely a creep. They could have been cool cars but I just don't like that. Incidentally I was responding the comment that mentioned there is a lot of hate for Tesla. What I mostly don't like about Tesla, aside from that stupid naming convention, is that they missed all of their manufa…

"Sexy" has long been used to describe something visually attractive, not remotely related to sex. Here's Jonathan Ive talking about sexy computers: https://blog.kissmetrics.com/sexy-design/. Do you think they're actually sexually attracted to these machines? Or implying other people will be? I think you need to revise your word connotations.

Re: Tesla Model 3 Sets New EV Cannonball Run Record

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Post by ep103 »

reaperducer wrote: post #123
ep103 wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For people who don't follow this, records for the cannonball run are usually always a few years old (people wait to announce hoping the statue of limitations expires, or at least makes it less likely). That said, its unlikely to change too much, most recent records were done in wildly expensive cars (retrofitted with additional gas tanks, radar, police scanners, etc), and usually include aerial support for the entire…

It's not a real Cannonball Run unless you do it in a Trans Am with a tractor trailer full of Coors.

That would be the http://www.the2904.org : )

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Post by hluska »

lafar6502 wrote: post #81

OK, what was the previous EV Cannonball Record?

It was set by other Teslas. The Verge has more information in their story at:

https://www.theverge.com/2018/1/2/16842816/tesla-model-3-la-...

The relevant quote reads:

Not only did the time best what Roy and a team did in 2016 when they did the run using a Model S and Autopilot by about 5 hours, but it also beat a record set just last summer by friends Jordan Hart and Bradly D'Souza in a Model S 85D by more than an hour.

("Roy" refers to Alex Roy, editor-at-large for the Drive, who was on the trip.)

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