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Re: Tesla Model 3 Sets New EV Cannonball Run Record

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Post by semi-extrinsic »

maxerickson wrote: post #11
sveme wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Per day? So around one to three years for the delivery of 150 000 cars.

Per month. But given how much faster they are with the other models and how bad their estimates have been for the Model 3, it just means we don't know how many vehicles they will average per day this year.

It's worth noting, though, that for the Model S and X the assembly lines were not built by Tesla. The Model 3 assembly line is the first one Tesla's ever made themselves.

The "old" Tesla factory was bought from a joint GM-Toyota venture that achieved average production of 25 000 vehicles per month running those lines for 25 years. Then that venture failed, Tesla bought the factory and repurposed the existing infrastructure.

It's like if SpaceX started by buying an old working NASA rocket design and repurposed it for the Falcon, but for Falcon Heavy they started entirely from scratch developing rocket fuels, engines, materials etc. without ever having done so before.

Re: Tesla Model 3 Sets New EV Cannonball Run Record

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Post by recrof »

tgarma1234 wrote: post #46
timmonsjg wrote: post #39

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>People don't get a free pass on being creeps just because they are blowing a lot of money anymore The man wants his car designs to evoke an image of being sexy and you consider him a creep? That's a way over-dramatic interpretation.

Yes, if you overtly sexualize something for which there is no real reason to take the conversation in that direction then you are very likely a creep. They could have been cool cars but I just don't like that. Incidentally I was responding the comment that mentioned there is a lot of hate for Tesla. What I mostly don't like about Tesla, aside from that stupid naming convention, is that they missed all of their manufa…

I think that you're misinterpreting this easter egg. It's meant to be clever joke, if you're trying to find something creepy in that, it's on you.

Re: Tesla Model 3 Sets New EV Cannonball Run Record

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Post by zzz157 »

tgarma1234 wrote: post #36
kumarvvr wrote: post #14

There is so much negativity about Tesla. Watching Tesla reminds of the the quote "We hoped for flying cars, but what we got was 140 characters" (or something similar, I don't remember it verbatim) Every time I think about Tesla, I am reminded of the thousands of brilliant engineers toiling away in Silicon Valley trying to optimize online advertising. Maybe we could be a bit more closer to Fusion energy, maybe we coul…

One thing that put me off about tesla, if you overlook all of the manufacturing issues that pretty much every analyst says will doom the company, is that for some bizarre reason the models were intentionally named in order to spell out S3XY. After Harvey Weinstein I think we all need to take a good hard look at the men who are in charge of things and ask, "why?" People don't get a free pass on being creeps just becau…

What you just said is far more creepy than "S3XY".

>informal exciting; appealing. "I've climbed most of the really sexy west coast mountains" synonyms: exciting, stimulating, interesting, appealing, intriguing, slick, red-hot "a sexy sales promotion"

Re: Tesla Model 3 Sets New EV Cannonball Run Record

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Post by falcolas »

kumarvvr wrote: post #28
hnarn wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's always been my sincere opinion that even if Musk fails miserably I'll still admire him more than most other "tech idols". There are people that say he's all talk, but I don't care. Even if he's 75% talk and delivers on the rest, whatever he does achieve is still better than a face-detecting smartphone or a social network that makes money by profiling your personality for advertisers. I don't care about the money…

> There are people that say he's all talk I really wish there is stronger support for him against these sorts of people. How can he be all talk when we see his rockets going up and coming back down.

Why does Elon Musk need popular support? He's not a politician who relies on popular support for his very job. He's not an actor who relies on popular support to bring money to his films.

He's a CEO. All the support he needs is to deliver on his promises. From my exceptionally limited point of view, he's at about 35% there:

Space X: 100% (Reusable, self-landing rockets. Fuck yeah!)

Tesla: 40% (Prototype in decent shape, promised production capabilities of model 3 still seems a long ways off)

The Boring Company: 0%

Hyperloop: 0%

Re: Tesla Model 3 Sets New EV Cannonball Run Record

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Post by theluketaylor »

LeifCarrotson wrote: post #22
Matt3o12_ wrote: post #8

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They are getting started. Mass producing a vehicle is not an easy task and takes a lot of expierence, equipment. Every manufacturer starts slowly but we don’t notice it as drastically because there is usually less demand. If Model A is not available, most customers choose Model B or Model A-like from company B. Or chances are they have not even heard of that Model and just don’t look for it. For Tesla it is different…

> For the Model 3, the only true competitors are the i3 and Chevy Bolt. ... My guess is that the 2018 Nissan Leaf will be the best choice this year... The Nissan Leaf isn't new in 2018, it's been around since 2011 and is (I think) still the most popular pure electric car. I'm aware that the 2018 should have some significant improvements, but I'm confused why you don't count either the current models or the 2018 as a…

The Leaf has moved to 2nd generation for 2018, including a larger capacity battery and a whole new look. It's not the same car that came out in 2011.

Re: Tesla Model 3 Sets New EV Cannonball Run Record

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Post by TFortunato »

tgarma1234 wrote: post #36
kumarvvr wrote: post #14

There is so much negativity about Tesla. Watching Tesla reminds of the the quote "We hoped for flying cars, but what we got was 140 characters" (or something similar, I don't remember it verbatim) Every time I think about Tesla, I am reminded of the thousands of brilliant engineers toiling away in Silicon Valley trying to optimize online advertising. Maybe we could be a bit more closer to Fusion energy, maybe we coul…

One thing that put me off about tesla, if you overlook all of the manufacturing issues that pretty much every analyst says will doom the company, is that for some bizarre reason the models were intentionally named in order to spell out S3XY. After Harvey Weinstein I think we all need to take a good hard look at the men who are in charge of things and ask, "why?" People don't get a free pass on being creeps just becau…

Did they? This is the first I've heard of it, and when I click models on their site, I see "S, X, 3, Roadster" (on mobile site), so I guess I never made any connection there.

(Also, is there a model Y in the works?)

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Post by VeejayRampay »

kumarvvr wrote: post #14

There is so much negativity about Tesla. Watching Tesla reminds of the the quote "We hoped for flying cars, but what we got was 140 characters" (or something similar, I don't remember it verbatim) Every time I think about Tesla, I am reminded of the thousands of brilliant engineers toiling away in Silicon Valley trying to optimize online advertising. Maybe we could be a bit more closer to Fusion energy, maybe we coul…

Even stranger to me: I'm French and we're world-class haters. Like, culturally conditioned to be dismissive of success, always seeing something negative when people achieve big things (they must have been crooked in some shape or form along the way, they exploited others, etc).

There used to be a time where American people were different in that regard. Celebrating success, entrepreneurs, daring mavericks, etc.

Now all I see is jealousy, smirk, poo-pooing. Have you guys turned French?

Re: Tesla Model 3 Sets New EV Cannonball Run Record

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Post by kumarvvr »

falcolas wrote: post #54
kumarvvr wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> There are people that say he's all talk I really wish there is stronger support for him against these sorts of people. How can he be all talk when we see his rockets going up and coming back down.

Why does Elon Musk need popular support? He's not a politician who relies on popular support for his very job. He's not an actor who relies on popular support to bring money to his films. He's a CEO. All the support he needs is to deliver on his promises. From my exceptionally limited point of view, he's at about 35% there: Space X: 100% (Reusable, self-landing rockets. Fuck yeah!) Tesla: 40% (Prototype in decent sha…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oia53xOLDmw

Re: Tesla Model 3 Sets New EV Cannonball Run Record

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Post by jimbokun »

Klathmon wrote: post #31
hnarn wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's always been my sincere opinion that even if Musk fails miserably I'll still admire him more than most other "tech idols". There are people that say he's all talk, but I don't care. Even if he's 75% talk and delivers on the rest, whatever he does achieve is still better than a face-detecting smartphone or a social network that makes money by profiling your personality for advertisers. I don't care about the money…

Musk isn't a PR guy, and I think a lot of people respect and like him for that. He makes crazy "moonshots", he has a vision and doesn't tone it down nearly as much as others do, and he's not afraid to be "wrong". The SpaceX community has a running joke about "elon time" being set to mars time, because his predictions and goals are almost always late (and are often under delivering), but I honestly respect that. Him a…

Musk is a genius at PR:

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/945712432416137217

Saw this yesterday when someone threw together a quick article on all of the gushing responses from customers to this tweet.

How can you say someone nicknamed "the real world Iron Man" is bad at PR?

Re: Tesla Model 3 Sets New EV Cannonball Run Record

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Post by jimbokun »

kumarvvr wrote: post #14

There is so much negativity about Tesla. Watching Tesla reminds of the the quote "We hoped for flying cars, but what we got was 140 characters" (or something similar, I don't remember it verbatim) Every time I think about Tesla, I am reminded of the thousands of brilliant engineers toiling away in Silicon Valley trying to optimize online advertising. Maybe we could be a bit more closer to Fusion energy, maybe we coul…

"But all I feel is constant negativity. I really feel sorry for Musk."

The negativity is so bad, his car company is worth more than Ford, with a minuscule fraction of the sales.

Elon will be just fine.

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