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Tesla Model 3 Sets New EV Cannonball Run Record

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Re: Tesla Model 3 Sets New EV Cannonball Run Record

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There is so much negativity about Tesla. Watching Tesla reminds of the the quote "We hoped for flying cars, but what we got was 140 characters" (or something similar, I don't remember it verbatim) Every time I think about Tesla, I am reminded of the thousands of brilliant engineers toiling away in Silicon Valley trying to optimize online advertising. Maybe we could be a bit more closer to Fusion energy, maybe we coul…

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Re: Tesla Model 3 Sets New EV Cannonball Run Record

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I drove the Model 3 last week. It’s a properly good car in it’s own right - It reminded me of the MOdel 3 from BMS in how it handles, of course the performance curve is totally different. The rethinking of the dashboard is perfect for the cell phone age. It’s Apple Good (back when Apple was good). The performance curve - the instant power at any point is addicting. The seats were comfortable, and the trunk space was…

The Bolt has DC fast charging, the Volt is a PHEV and would make it from LA to NY with 5 minute stops.

Re: Tesla Model 3 Sets New EV Cannonball Run Record

#93

There is so much negativity about Tesla. Watching Tesla reminds of the the quote "We hoped for flying cars, but what we got was 140 characters" (or something similar, I don't remember it verbatim) Every time I think about Tesla, I am reminded of the thousands of brilliant engineers toiling away in Silicon Valley trying to optimize online advertising. Maybe we could be a bit more closer to Fusion energy, maybe we coul…

One thing that put me off about tesla, if you overlook all of the manufacturing issues that pretty much every analyst says will doom the company, is that for some bizarre reason the models were intentionally named in order to spell out S3XY. After Harvey Weinstein I think we all need to take a good hard look at the men who are in charge of things and ask, "why?" People don't get a free pass on being creeps just becau…

Congrats! Elon could have got away with it, but you connected the dots. He will be forced to resign any day now.

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It's interesting what would be the equivalent result for Chevrolet Bolt, as it's pretty much an equivalent car, but without the advantage of Tesla's supercharger network.

I don’t think it would be possible in anything like a reasonable amount of time. Non-Tesla fast chargers have huge gaps for a cross-country run. You’d have to spend days waiting for 6kW commercial chargers or 240V RV plugs charging you at 25-35MPH.

DC fast chargers aren't as common but charge the Bolt at supercharger-like speeds if you have the option

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Musk isn't a PR guy, and I think a lot of people respect and like him for that. He makes crazy "moonshots", he has a vision and doesn't tone it down nearly as much as others do, and he's not afraid to be "wrong". The SpaceX community has a running joke about "elon time" being set to mars time, because his predictions and goals are almost always late (and are often under delivering), but I honestly respect that. Him a…

>He makes crazy "moonshots" His back of hand calculations on the viability of self-landing rockets, while coming back from a trip to Russia after a failed attempt to purchase a launch vehicle certainly wasn't moonshot. He is a technology man in and out and knows the capabilities and limits of technology. I remember reading a book about Tesla and I always felt like he saw opportunities in the gaps existing between wha…

Indeed. Musk is a tech guy. The real tech guy, not the usual CEO of a tech company, who really does mostly marketing and management. He knows his physics and is involved in engineering decisions. For me personally, it's Musk who defines what does it mean to be a "tech CEO", and most companies we discuss here every day don't even qualify.

> I remember reading a book about Tesla and I always felt like he saw opportunities in the gaps existing between what is available and what is possible.

My view is that he focuses on what should be possible from first principles, ignoring whether or not our short-sighted markets find it desirable at the moment. It's a good strategy if you have a non-monetary goal in mind and resources to bankroll the efforts at forcing the markets into accepting your work.

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They are getting started. Mass producing a vehicle is not an easy task and takes a lot of expierence, equipment. Every manufacturer starts slowly but we don’t notice it as drastically because there is usually less demand. If Model A is not available, most customers choose Model B or Model A-like from company B. Or chances are they have not even heard of that Model and just don’t look for it. For Tesla it is different…

So your argument is that there its unfair to compare the Chevy Bolt to the Tesla 3 because the latter is prettier?

The argument is not that "it's unfair to compare". The argument is that everything else being roughly equal, people prefer to wait for the Tesla because of its style.

Re: Tesla Model 3 Sets New EV Cannonball Run Record

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I think they meant PR-only guy. His PR genius is in using his fan following for free PR. Tesla or SpaceX hardly need to spend any marketing dollars. No other tech leader is as charismatic (Steve Jobs came close, but Musk seems more genuine whereas Jobs felt like a salesman) and very few are as personally intelligent and accomplished.

Steve Jobs used way more hyped up adjectives, almost as if talking to a cult following.

Steve Jobs was basically a salesman. A brilliant one. Nothing bad in that; I just wouldn't call him a "tech leader" - he was involved with technology only incidentally.

Re: Tesla Model 3 Sets New EV Cannonball Run Record

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Tesla's marketing is always misleading. That irks people and from there comes the "negativity". When the Model S came out, they tried to claim that they had "solved EVs". When they introduced their self driving tech, they pretty much implied that keeping your hands on the wheel was only a legal technicality. They are always trying to claim they are two more steps ahead than they really are. I understand that it is th…

I think Model S solved electric driving. Car reviewers seem to think so, the industry seem to think so (most manufacturers announced electrical models). Range, comfort, charging locations, safety, all solved problems. How is Tesla's supposed claim they solved electrical driving misleading?

> I think Model S solved electric driving.

Not so much: The actual Cannonball record is a bit over half the EV one -- 28 hours and 50 minutes -- and Roy himself drove it in 31 hours and 4 minutes. I'll be curious how much of their journey was charging time, a figure someone will probably extract from their GPS track soon.

Re: Tesla Model 3 Sets New EV Cannonball Run Record

#99

There is so much negativity about Tesla. Watching Tesla reminds of the the quote "We hoped for flying cars, but what we got was 140 characters" (or something similar, I don't remember it verbatim) Every time I think about Tesla, I am reminded of the thousands of brilliant engineers toiling away in Silicon Valley trying to optimize online advertising. Maybe we could be a bit more closer to Fusion energy, maybe we coul…

Inside that negativity there is some truth too. Tesla for one is leveraged 7:1 and that too in a time of easy and near zero interest rate credit. With Feds changing rates they might be painted into a tight box.

I am sure situation is same for SpaceX too.

And then the whole SolarCity acquisition which didn't go down well.

That said, yes you have to hand it to Musk. Even if these companies go belly up, they have brought in lot of new technology.

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For people who don't follow this, records for the cannonball run are usually always a few years old (people wait to announce hoping the statue of limitations expires, or at least makes it less likely). That said, its unlikely to change too much, most recent records were done in wildly expensive cars (retrofitted with additional gas tanks, radar, police scanners, etc), and usually include aerial support for the entire…

In short, it's a bunch of reckless rich assholes who have no respect for other people on the road. Go on a proper racetrack and show what you can do there.

A racetrack would be a completely different test of skill. From what I understand a cannonball run is largely planning and endurance.

Edit: Not to discount the idea that it is reckless to do it on public roads...

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