OK, what was the previous EV Cannonball Record?
Tesla Model 3 Sets New EV Cannonball Run Record
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#82I'm a Tesla fan, but in the middle of the article, it says: "The two completed the cross-country drive in 50 hours and 16 minutes, setting a new electric Cannonball Run record." That's not quite the same as the headline... It looks like petrol cars have done it in under 27 hours http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2015/03/ny-la-26-hours-28-m...
For people who don't follow this, records for the cannonball run are usually always a few years old (people wait to announce hoping the statue of limitations expires, or at least makes it less likely). That said, its unlikely to change too much, most recent records were done in wildly expensive cars (retrofitted with additional gas tanks, radar, police scanners, etc), and usually include aerial support for the entire…
In short, it's a bunch of reckless rich assholes who have no respect for other people on the road. Go on a proper racetrack and show what you can do there.
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#83Earlier quoted context omitted.
> There are people that say he's all talk I really wish there is stronger support for him against these sorts of people. How can he be all talk when we see his rockets going up and coming back down.
Well first of all they're not his rockets. The engineers and scientists did it, he supplies the money, arguably a meritless in ck prison. Second, there are many promises he still hasn't delivered on: SpaceX targets not met, Tesla still running at a massive loss, Hyperloop being doomed to failure, etc etc. I can definitely see why people say he is mostly talk, even though admittedly he has achieved some successes.
My understanding is that he personally learned a ton about rocket science and actively contributed to the design, as well as providing business context, which is itself no mean feat.
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#84I drove the Model 3 last week. It’s a properly good car in it’s own right - It reminded me of the MOdel 3 from BMS in how it handles, of course the performance curve is totally different. The rethinking of the dashboard is perfect for the cell phone age. It’s Apple Good (back when Apple was good). The performance curve - the instant power at any point is addicting. The seats were comfortable, and the trunk space was…
> With a Volt, there are places that you just can’t go. To be fair, you can charge any EV fairly quickly at any campground with 220V RV hookups. With adequate planning, I think you could drive a Bolt anywhere.
I wouldn’t describe the ~30MPH you get from a 240V RV plug as “fairly quickly.” It’s fine for an overnight charge, but you’ll basically be limited to driving the car’s single-charge range each day. It’s possible but I wouldn’t want to try it.
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#85Arguably, Tesla & Elon Musk already achieved their goal of speeding up the adoption to EVs away from combustion engines: all car companies are working now on or have plans for electric vehicles. Elon Musk has already succeeded big big time.
And to add to it: the other car companies are ACTUALLY working on EMVs now, not just show some design study drenched in blue lights at some car expo once per year before going back to selling Diesel engines like they did in the past.
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#86Earlier quoted context omitted.
They are getting started. Mass producing a vehicle is not an easy task and takes a lot of expierence, equipment. Every manufacturer starts slowly but we don’t notice it as drastically because there is usually less demand. If Model A is not available, most customers choose Model B or Model A-like from company B. Or chances are they have not even heard of that Model and just don’t look for it. For Tesla it is different…
> For the Model 3, the only true competitors are the i3 and Chevy Bolt. ... My guess is that the 2018 Nissan Leaf will be the best choice this year... The Nissan Leaf isn't new in 2018, it's been around since 2011 and is (I think) still the most popular pure electric car. I'm aware that the 2018 should have some significant improvements, but I'm confused why you don't count either the current models or the 2018 as a…
The pre-2018 LEAF has around an 80 mile range with a passsively cooled battery that does very poorly in the long term. The new version is better but still not in the same league as the Model 3 or Bolt.
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#87It will be interesting to see how the next Roadster is able to do once it actually becomes available. With a 600 mile range and likely the ability to charge significantly faster, it should be able to smash this number. Eventually.
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#88There is so much negativity about Tesla. Watching Tesla reminds of the the quote "We hoped for flying cars, but what we got was 140 characters" (or something similar, I don't remember it verbatim) Every time I think about Tesla, I am reminded of the thousands of brilliant engineers toiling away in Silicon Valley trying to optimize online advertising. Maybe we could be a bit more closer to Fusion energy, maybe we coul…
Your comment strongly reminds me of this comment (and the thread) of 4 years ago:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7885128
Nothing has changed.
To quote 'natural219 from what I just linked, the words I 100% support:
"Godspeed, Musk. (...) I'm behind you 100%. I just hope you can finish your work before our shitty, myopic, destructive society tears you down. Here's to faith."
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#89Earlier quoted context omitted.
Musk is a genius at PR: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/945712432416137217 Saw this yesterday when someone threw together a quick article on all of the gushing responses from customers to this tweet. How can you say someone nicknamed "the real world Iron Man" is bad at PR?
I think they meant PR-only guy. His PR genius is in using his fan following for free PR. Tesla or SpaceX hardly need to spend any marketing dollars. No other tech leader is as charismatic (Steve Jobs came close, but Musk seems more genuine whereas Jobs felt like a salesman) and very few are as personally intelligent and accomplished.
Steve Jobs used way more hyped up adjectives, almost as if talking to a cult following.
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#90Earlier quoted context omitted.
Tesla's marketing is always misleading. That irks people and from there comes the "negativity". When the Model S came out, they tried to claim that they had "solved EVs". When they introduced their self driving tech, they pretty much implied that keeping your hands on the wheel was only a legal technicality. They are always trying to claim they are two more steps ahead than they really are. I understand that it is th…
I think Model S solved electric driving. Car reviewers seem to think so, the industry seem to think so (most manufacturers announced electrical models). Range, comfort, charging locations, safety, all solved problems. How is Tesla's supposed claim they solved electrical driving misleading?
For the past 15 years people had been trying to make the mass market EV. The envisioned future was that the every day man would be driving this basic EV instead of their $15k ICE commuter car. That was the goal, obviously influenced to a great extent by both fuel prices and climate change concerns. All EV car models before the Tesla Roadster were trying to target this market.
The Model S targeted a new market entirely. Nobody had tried to do a luxury sedan EV and kodus to Tesla for spotting that niche, but that was not the goal that everyone else was chasing. It was something else entirely.
From an economics and from a technology point of view, building an $80k EV with decent range is insanely easier than building a $15k EV. Even if it has to be a luxury car and look good. It still gives you that $20k leeway to equip you car with a massive battery.
The misleading part was trying to claim that they had solved the problem that everyone else was working on, when in fact they had not. And they still have not today as evidenced by the $35k price tag of the Model 3.