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Goldman Sachs Is Setting Up a Cryptocurrency Trading Desk

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What's with all the extreme negativity with Bitcoin and its trading price on HN? I've been noticing that in all the BTC related threads recently. Yes, this is possibly getting too large too fast. Yes there is a chance this is a bubble because the barbers and shoeshine boys are talking about it. But there is also a chance that we genuinely are at the beginning of the transition from Fiat currencies to crypto (beginnin…

For technical reasons, Bitcoin honestly sucks. The block rate is so low that transactions cost many dollars and take hours to confirm. This is only going to continue to get worse, as it turns out that having a global ledger is actually the opposite of a decentralized system. I can't do anything with Bitcoin that I can't do more easily with my credit card. It offers no value except a tool for rampant speculation. Bloc…

Bitcoin truly does suck, for reasons mentioned and the wastefulness of PoW. However, saying that "blockchain sucks" is really short sighted and screams of ideological bias. We're not in the MySpace stage yet, but more like AOL. The internet in the early 90s sucked a whole lot too but the potential was pretty obvious, just like it is with crypto. And today there's a whole lot more to blockchain than just digital cash. That's just the most obvious and, by now, one of the least interesting applications.

Sure, all of this technology is nascent and scaling issues are yet to be solved. But it's far from useless in its current form. Not every application needs 10s of thousands of txs per second, for example ICOs. I know that this is another hot-button issue, but some of us feel strongly that people should not be protected from themselves. And that's the most important thing that blockchain offers: true freedom, and that's why it's so exciting. Especially at this junction, in the wake of the internet having been co-opted by big business and big government.

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> I think an even bigger danger than failing spectacularly is if they take too long to roll it out. Other cryptocurrencies are already gaining some favor because of the situation BTC is in now with the high transaction fees. Who cares? Honestly, who cares if BTC is the one that wins? I only care about some cryptocurrency seeing mass adoption, I don't care if that's BTC or any of the other thousand coins.

Well certainly all of the HODLers care. Some of them have a lot to lose if Bitcoin fails. I think a bigger risk than specifically Bitcoin failing is all this crypto fragmentation. If not Bitcoin, then what? When Yahoo was replaced by Google people switched and their lives didn’t change. If/when Bitcoin goes to zero people could lose faith in crypto completely there might never be a replacement.

The fragmentation is fine. Technology is in the works to make blockchains interoperable. Look up Polkadot.

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> I think an even bigger danger than failing spectacularly is if they take too long to roll it out. Other cryptocurrencies are already gaining some favor because of the situation BTC is in now with the high transaction fees. Who cares? Honestly, who cares if BTC is the one that wins? I only care about some cryptocurrency seeing mass adoption, I don't care if that's BTC or any of the other thousand coins.

>Who cares? Honestly, who cares if BTC is the one that wins? Well, everyone who is long on BTC.

They should be diversified or else they deserve the pain.

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There's a cryptocurrency called RaiBlocks that is working to be the best at transfer of value. The protocol uses new cryptocurrency concepts evolved over the years and I believe it can be quite revolutionary. In my opinion, bitcoin is one of the worst cryptocurrencies at the moment, and to be honest I hope to see it die soon. Create a wallet using this site https://raiwallet.com/ , paste your address here and I'll se…

Added to my list of crypto projects that look interesting.

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There's a cryptocurrency called RaiBlocks that is working to be the best at transfer of value. The protocol uses new cryptocurrency concepts evolved over the years and I believe it can be quite revolutionary. In my opinion, bitcoin is one of the worst cryptocurrencies at the moment, and to be honest I hope to see it die soon. Create a wallet using this site https://raiwallet.com/ , paste your address here and I'll se…

Requesting some Rai !!

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Re: Goldman Sachs Is Setting Up a Cryptocurrency Trading Desk

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There's a cryptocurrency called RaiBlocks that is working to be the best at transfer of value. The protocol uses new cryptocurrency concepts evolved over the years and I believe it can be quite revolutionary. In my opinion, bitcoin is one of the worst cryptocurrencies at the moment, and to be honest I hope to see it die soon. Create a wallet using this site https://raiwallet.com/ , paste your address here and I'll se…

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Re: Goldman Sachs Is Setting Up a Cryptocurrency Trading Desk

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There's a cryptocurrency called RaiBlocks that is working to be the best at transfer of value. The protocol uses new cryptocurrency concepts evolved over the years and I believe it can be quite revolutionary. In my opinion, bitcoin is one of the worst cryptocurrencies at the moment, and to be honest I hope to see it die soon. Create a wallet using this site https://raiwallet.com/ , paste your address here and I'll se…

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Re: Goldman Sachs Is Setting Up a Cryptocurrency Trading Desk

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post #342

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well certainly all of the HODLers care. Some of them have a lot to lose if Bitcoin fails. I think a bigger risk than specifically Bitcoin failing is all this crypto fragmentation. If not Bitcoin, then what? When Yahoo was replaced by Google people switched and their lives didn’t change. If/when Bitcoin goes to zero people could lose faith in crypto completely there might never be a replacement.

The fragmentation is fine. Technology is in the works to make blockchains interoperable. Look up Polkadot.

I’m aware of some of these efforts. I’ve been following REQ.

If currencies go to zero and the masses lose their money then they could lose faith in the whole system. Interop of 100+ currencies won’t matter if all have zero value.

I’m not saying this will happen, but suggesting it’s a worst case scenario.

Re: Goldman Sachs Is Setting Up a Cryptocurrency Trading Desk

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There's a cryptocurrency called RaiBlocks that is working to be the best at transfer of value. The protocol uses new cryptocurrency concepts evolved over the years and I believe it can be quite revolutionary. In my opinion, bitcoin is one of the worst cryptocurrencies at the moment, and to be honest I hope to see it die soon. Create a wallet using this site https://raiwallet.com/ , paste your address here and I'll se…

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Most of us Bitcoiners are skeptical of modern monetary policy and want a risk-free store of value for our wealth. Today Bitcoin is very risky, however, we believe its fundamental properties will ultimately lead to a stable place to put our savings. Sure, it won't gain interest or dividends but it also won't be subject to inflation or central banker manipulation. The above is purely my opinion and is frequently the su…

So why bitcoin rather than another cryptocurrency? If another becomes more popular, everyone shifts to it, and the price crashes, what use was bitcoin as a store of value? The difference with other assets like cash or gold is that they have value that is supported by a clear rationale based on a central bank’s economic policies.

The value of gold is not rational
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