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Ciao, Chrome: Firefox Quantum Is the Browser Built for 2017

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Re: Ciao, Chrome: Firefox Quantum Is the Browser Built for 2017

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Post by astura »

blub wrote: post #121
jayd16 wrote: post #63

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Every app and app developer could use crash/bug reports. I can understand your paranoia that something else is being sent but I would hardly call the idea of asking to send back bug reports abhorrent.

Decent gaslighting attempt, but no. This is not paranoia, scummy software developers have actually sent much more than crash reports. And crash reports may contain private information anyway. Before anyone says Mozilla is different: http://www.zdnet.com/article/firefox-tests-cliqz-engine-whic...

That's not what gaslighting is.

Re: Ciao, Chrome: Firefox Quantum Is the Browser Built for 2017

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Post by userbinator »

jayd16 wrote: post #63
userbinator wrote: post #54

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Unfortunately telemetry is everywhere now, and it disgusts me greatly. Personally, I find the idea that software should continuously phone home about its use, and this silent data collection/monitoring, extremely abhorrent. Some apps that really do not need to interact with the network at all do it, and those can be easily firewalled, but not so with a browser. Edit: Wow, downvotes for opposing pervasive telemetry. N…

Every app and app developer could use crash/bug reports. I can understand your paranoia that something else is being sent but I would hardly call the idea of asking to send back bug reports abhorrent.

I'm a developer myself and I absolutely oppose this practice. I don't do it and I don't want others to either. The possibility of exposing sensitive information is just not worth it. If you discover a bug you can always make a bug report and provide any details there. In that case, the consent and scope of disclosure is made very explicit. Chances are you don't know what information a machine-generated bug report contains, but you do know what you wrote when you reported it.

Re: Ciao, Chrome: Firefox Quantum Is the Browser Built for 2017

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Post by frik »

mastax wrote: post #84

I'm surprised at the success of Mozilla's PR push for this. It seems the time is right for this. Probably helps that tech sites seem to compete to have an article on every "current" topic.

'DOM' panel in FF DevTools unfortunately still doesn't distinguished between inbuilt native DOM nodes and custom DOM nodes from JS code - making the DOM panel still completely useless. Firebug grouped non-native DOM nodes (the interesting ones for devs) and sorted them on top, and marked them in bold font - non of these is in the new FF. Until DOM panel still a work-in-progress, I cannot switch.

I still keep a Firebug 48 with old Firebug addon around, because of the awesome DOM panel (that also Chrome doesn't have).

Re: Ciao, Chrome: Firefox Quantum Is the Browser Built for 2017

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Post by Manishearth »

Tomte wrote: post #141
Manishearth wrote: post #127

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It's not a bug in Mozilla's implementation. Google has a JS u2f library that relies on an implementation specific detail of Chrome's U2F impl. Lots of folks use this library.

Hm, that's not good. Is that implementation detail something Mozilla might replicate?

Not easily IIRC. Google is aware of that bug so I think we're going to just wait.

Re: Ciao, Chrome: Firefox Quantum Is the Browser Built for 2017

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Post by scotu »

hadrien01 wrote: post #71
scotu wrote: post #62

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they allow different sets of extensions (and cookie jar and so on) and they are basically segregated by window (no tabs with different profile in the same window). In the end they are different from containers in the general purpose (they are geared towards having a multi user experience more than firefox's multi identity/privacy) but chrome's take is much less frustrating to manage in my experience because you can't…

What you're looking for is called Firefox profiles. Just launch firefox -P.

I'd love a combination of the two maybe, but profiles are probably good enough, thanks

Re: Ciao, Chrome: Firefox Quantum Is the Browser Built for 2017

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Post by pitaj »

trumbitta2 wrote: post #51

I'll stop using Chrome for work (UX Engineer) and personal use when safari mobile, chrome for iOS, and chrome for Android will each become Firefox. A browser I'm the only one using, has no use for me.

I'm not sure what you mean. Do you mean that you want Firefox mobile to be the default browser?

Firefox mobile is available on Android and also on iOS, though the iOS variant is only a wrap around Safari because of Apple's walked garden.

Re: Ciao, Chrome: Firefox Quantum Is the Browser Built for 2017

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Post by frik »

jalopy wrote: post #155

I tried Quantum and it crushed the battery of my MacBook Air. Activity Monitor showed much more energy usage than chrome. Anyone experience the same?

There seem to be a bug with MP4 video processing it eats CPU and battery like crazy (for me both on macOS and Win7), but otherwise, the new FF is great.

Re: Ciao, Chrome: Firefox Quantum Is the Browser Built for 2017

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Post by baq »

TAForObvReasons wrote: post #72
spystath wrote: post #18

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You'd think that a technology-oriented magazine like wired would at least try to aim for cross-browser compatibility in their infrastructure. But why bother, make your CMS Chrome-only a policy and free yourself of extra testing. And it's not only wired. I've come across a lot of internal sites and intranets that are poorly tested on anything but Chrome. I know, it's not exactly the same thing as the old IE/ActiveX bu…

If Firefox had a larger market share, it would be easy to make the argument for cross-browser compatibility. But when Firefox is not even 12% of Chrome's usage globally http://gs.statcounter.com/ and likely much less for your customers it's difficult to appeal to ideals

How many millions of users is that 12% again?
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