I'll stop using Chrome for work (UX Engineer) and personal use when safari mobile, chrome for iOS, and chrome for Android will each become Firefox.
A browser I'm the only one using, has no use for me.
Ciao, Chrome: Firefox Quantum Is the Browser Built for 2017
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Re: Ciao, Chrome: Firefox Quantum Is the Browser Built for 2017
#52Anyone have thoughts on the opt-out telemetry default? I had to read the privacy notice they open on start to find out that telemetry was enabled by default.
My gut reaction was to be suspicious of Mozilla, but then I remembered that they're Mozilla. They're probably just trying to figure out which features are confusing for users. It's strange because we do this type of tracking in all facets of webapps, but desktop apps trigger our suspicion meter.
Yeah definitely. I think the scope of desktop apps is often wider though.
With web apps any telemetry data is pretty much limited to things on that domain. Browsers have access to more in principle.
I guess if the data transmitted is not personally-identifying or profile-building then it's fine. E.g. number of sites only, not urls. On second glance at the new FF page https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/privacy/firefox/ it seems like the stuff they collect is pretty innocuous. Paranoia ftw.
Re: Ciao, Chrome: Firefox Quantum Is the Browser Built for 2017
#53Earlier quoted context omitted.
> "real fake news" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slippery_slope or (to play coy): you're suggesting we block fiction from the internet...?
Fake news is a distinct category of story that is easily quantified. It is a real problem that the United States faces and if we don't attempt to combat it, discourse will suffer. Since you're a fan of Wikipedia articles, try reading this one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fake_news_websites_in_the_Unit...
ok. read the whole article. and i understood you right off the bat just fine. you want to block fiction from the internet. specifically, political fiction. and to be really generous, more specifically, political fiction with a certain intent.
now. who gets to arbitrate what is "political"? who gets to arbitrate what is "fiction"? who gets to arbitrate someone else's "intent"?
Clinton? Trump? Bezos? Huffington? pick your poison. and i'll find half a country that disagrees with you.
signed,
a very confused liberal
Re: Ciao, Chrome: Firefox Quantum Is the Browser Built for 2017
#54Anyone have thoughts on the opt-out telemetry default? I had to read the privacy notice they open on start to find out that telemetry was enabled by default.
Unfortunately telemetry is everywhere now, and it disgusts me greatly. Personally, I find the idea that software should continuously phone home about its use, and this silent data collection/monitoring, extremely abhorrent. Some apps that really do not need to interact with the network at all do it, and those can be easily firewalled, but not so with a browser.
Edit: Wow, downvotes for opposing pervasive telemetry. Now that is scary...
Re: Ciao, Chrome: Firefox Quantum Is the Browser Built for 2017
#55Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why not use your package manager?
Interesting! Didn't realize Ubuntu had included it already. I almost always assumed Ubuntu package manager is always behind by a few versions (like it is for everything else).
Ubuntu tends to keep Firefox up to date, although I haven't used Ubuntu for a few months already.
But regardless, this is the "official PPA" for the Beta channel: https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/ubuntu/firefox-n...
Re: Ciao, Chrome: Firefox Quantum Is the Browser Built for 2017
#56Earlier quoted context omitted.
> "real fake news" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slippery_slope or (to play coy): you're suggesting we block fiction from the internet...?
No, he is clearly not.
how substantial of you. your post may have been of some value if i didn't indicate i was being coy. alas, i was asking for elaboration on his opinion. not your canned response.
Re: Ciao, Chrome: Firefox Quantum Is the Browser Built for 2017
#57Anyone have thoughts on the opt-out telemetry default? I had to read the privacy notice they open on start to find out that telemetry was enabled by default.
My gut reaction was to be suspicious of Mozilla, but then I remembered that they're Mozilla. They're probably just trying to figure out which features are confusing for users. It's strange because we do this type of tracking in all facets of webapps, but desktop apps trigger our suspicion meter.
Firefox is actually the only software where I've reviewed the privacy settings when asked and allowed it to send more information than the default setting to the vendor.
Because Mozilla.
Re: Ciao, Chrome: Firefox Quantum Is the Browser Built for 2017
#58I'm a pretty heavy user of Chrome profiles .. definitely doesn't feel as well thought out in Firefox.
Try Firefox Containers: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/multi-account...
Re: Ciao, Chrome: Firefox Quantum Is the Browser Built for 2017
#59Anyone have thoughts on the opt-out telemetry default? I had to read the privacy notice they open on start to find out that telemetry was enabled by default.
My gut reaction was to be suspicious of Mozilla, but then I remembered that they're Mozilla. They're probably just trying to figure out which features are confusing for users. It's strange because we do this type of tracking in all facets of webapps, but desktop apps trigger our suspicion meter.
It's strange because we do this type of tracking in all facets of webapps
It's natural because in some sense, a webapp is more like regular visiting a site; and just like the fact that my requests to websites will show up in their server logs is, for the most part, not really a concern. To use an analogy, "if you want to have a conversation, both sides need to be able to contact each other." But when software is monitoring what I'm doing with it, and reporting to one central site, when I'm visiting other sites? That just evokes "do not want". I don't care if it's Mozilla or Google or whoever else. Just. Stop. Watching. Me.
Re: Ciao, Chrome: Firefox Quantum Is the Browser Built for 2017
#60Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is kind of a strange complaint. You’re using Linux but you don’t want to use the version packaged by your distro, yet you’re uncomfortable opening a standard tarball and following the intructions within? Yet you’re complaining that Mozilla didn’t go the extra mile for your obscure situation.
I'm used to the assumption that my package manager is out of date. It usually is (e.g. it still has only OpenCV 2.4). I have a huge pile of PPAs to solve that ...
I on Fedora and the latest version is available via dnf. But still I use nightly, and all I had to do to j install it was untar it into my opt directory and symlink the binary.