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Re: Ciao, Chrome: Firefox Quantum Is the Browser Built for 2017

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post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fake news sites (real fake news, not how Trump uses it) are malware for the mind. These are things that are 100% fictional and made up to deceive readers for clicks.

> "real fake news" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slippery_slope or (to play coy): you're suggesting we block fiction from the internet...?

No, he is clearly not.

Re: Ciao, Chrome: Firefox Quantum Is the Browser Built for 2017

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post #28

I wish they had some better UX designers. Hit the download button and I get a .bz2 file with no install scripts whatsoever. $ tar jxvf firefox-57.0.tar.bz2 $ cd firefox $ mkdir /usr/local/firefox mkdir: cannot create directory '/usr/local/firefox': Permission denied $ sudo su Password: # mkdir /usr/local/firefox # cp -rv * /usr/local/firefox/ ... # ln -s /usr/local/firefox/firefox /usr/bin/firefox ln: failed to creat…

This is kind of a strange complaint. You’re using Linux but you don’t want to use the version packaged by your distro, yet you’re uncomfortable opening a standard tarball and following the intructions within? Yet you’re complaining that Mozilla didn’t go the extra mile for your obscure situation.

Re: Ciao, Chrome: Firefox Quantum Is the Browser Built for 2017

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post #28

I wish they had some better UX designers. Hit the download button and I get a .bz2 file with no install scripts whatsoever. $ tar jxvf firefox-57.0.tar.bz2 $ cd firefox $ mkdir /usr/local/firefox mkdir: cannot create directory '/usr/local/firefox': Permission denied $ sudo su Password: # mkdir /usr/local/firefox # cp -rv * /usr/local/firefox/ ... # ln -s /usr/local/firefox/firefox /usr/bin/firefox ln: failed to creat…

Why not use your package manager?

Interesting! Didn't realize Ubuntu had included it already. I almost always assumed Ubuntu package manager is always behind by a few versions (like it is for everything else).

Re: Ciao, Chrome: Firefox Quantum Is the Browser Built for 2017

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post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh, that's great news. Blocking fake news sources would get me to try to switch some relatives back over to Firefox.

I simply don't want the technology I use to be the arbiter of information. Teaching people to discern quality sources for themselves is far better IMO.

That seems to be exactly what Mozilla is doing no? Research and investing in tools that help people learn to navigate information online and judge for them self. Haven’t found anything that suggests they plan on blocking websites.

Re: Ciao, Chrome: Firefox Quantum Is the Browser Built for 2017

#45
post #28

I wish they had some better UX designers. Hit the download button and I get a .bz2 file with no install scripts whatsoever. $ tar jxvf firefox-57.0.tar.bz2 $ cd firefox $ mkdir /usr/local/firefox mkdir: cannot create directory '/usr/local/firefox': Permission denied $ sudo su Password: # mkdir /usr/local/firefox # cp -rv * /usr/local/firefox/ ... # ln -s /usr/local/firefox/firefox /usr/bin/firefox ln: failed to creat…

Well, you're using linux, you should know how to go around this (the tar.bz2 used to have a run-firefox script though) or try the distro package manager

In Mac and Windows it's frictionless

Re: Ciao, Chrome: Firefox Quantum Is the Browser Built for 2017

#46
post #42
post #28

I wish they had some better UX designers. Hit the download button and I get a .bz2 file with no install scripts whatsoever. $ tar jxvf firefox-57.0.tar.bz2 $ cd firefox $ mkdir /usr/local/firefox mkdir: cannot create directory '/usr/local/firefox': Permission denied $ sudo su Password: # mkdir /usr/local/firefox # cp -rv * /usr/local/firefox/ ... # ln -s /usr/local/firefox/firefox /usr/bin/firefox ln: failed to creat…

This is kind of a strange complaint. You’re using Linux but you don’t want to use the version packaged by your distro, yet you’re uncomfortable opening a standard tarball and following the intructions within? Yet you’re complaining that Mozilla didn’t go the extra mile for your obscure situation.

I'm used to the assumption that my package manager is out of date. It usually is (e.g. it still has only OpenCV 2.4). I have a huge pile of PPAs to solve that ...

Re: Ciao, Chrome: Firefox Quantum Is the Browser Built for 2017

#47

I'm a pretty heavy user of Chrome profiles .. definitely doesn't feel as well thought out in Firefox.

As someone who's not really used Chrome aside from browser testing (which used to involve a lot of cursing because flexbox min sizing was broken), can you explain what Chrome profiles offer over e.g. container tabs? Are you using them as separate cookie jars, to install different extensions or something else?

Re: Ciao, Chrome: Firefox Quantum Is the Browser Built for 2017

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> I can't use the Conde Nast CMS in anything other than Chrome, so I can't switch completely. Highlight of the article tucked in at the end there.

Websites and -apps that run in just one browser are worse than ones that haven't yet switched to HTTPS. It is 2017. This has been going on for 20 years. Browsers are more like each other than ever before. There is no reason for this in a new app.

Re: Ciao, Chrome: Firefox Quantum Is the Browser Built for 2017

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After years of being a Chrome user, I've been trying to work myself off of Google's infrastructure as much as possible. Firefox is great, but I was very disappointed to learn that they are partnering with political activists to block sites that they deem to be "fake news." Edit: makeee below posted a good source describing what Mozilla is currently doing, which appears to be limited to "researching" the problem of fa…

I'm aware of a research project to see if reliable identification of "fake news" websites is possible, but there's no "blocking" coming to Firefox. That would violate point 5 of the Mozilla Manifesto.

https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/about/manifesto/

Re: Ciao, Chrome: Firefox Quantum Is the Browser Built for 2017

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post #30

And yet 95% of the time I try to watch YouTube in Firefox, it just hangs, never actually playing. Yet Chrome works flawlessly every time. I'm not saying Google is doing anything malicious here, I think it's more of a "we put a lot more effort into making YouTube work" kinda thing.

It doesn't hang for me, but it is slow and even lags in Quantum on an underpowered machine on Ubuntu. Works fine in Chrome though.
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