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Ciao, Chrome: Firefox Quantum Is the Browser Built for 2017

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Re: Ciao, Chrome: Firefox Quantum Is the Browser Built for 2017

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After years of being a Chrome user, I've been trying to work myself off of Google's infrastructure as much as possible. Firefox is great, but I was very disappointed to learn that they are partnering with political activists to block sites that they deem to be "fake news." Edit: makeee below posted a good source describing what Mozilla is currently doing, which appears to be limited to "researching" the problem of fa…

Oh, that's great news. Blocking fake news sources would get me to try to switch some relatives back over to Firefox.

I simply don't want the technology I use to be the arbiter of information. Teaching people to discern quality sources for themselves is far better IMO.

Re: Ciao, Chrome: Firefox Quantum Is the Browser Built for 2017

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After years of being a Chrome user, I've been trying to work myself off of Google's infrastructure as much as possible. Firefox is great, but I was very disappointed to learn that they are partnering with political activists to block sites that they deem to be "fake news." Edit: makeee below posted a good source describing what Mozilla is currently doing, which appears to be limited to "researching" the problem of fa…

That's great new unless your party is the one thats generating most of the fake news, A.K.A GOP/Trump.

Re: Ciao, Chrome: Firefox Quantum Is the Browser Built for 2017

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post #28

I wish they had some better UX designers. Hit the download button and I get a .bz2 file with no install scripts whatsoever. $ tar jxvf firefox-57.0.tar.bz2 $ cd firefox $ mkdir /usr/local/firefox mkdir: cannot create directory '/usr/local/firefox': Permission denied $ sudo su Password: # mkdir /usr/local/firefox # cp -rv * /usr/local/firefox/ ... # ln -s /usr/local/firefox/firefox /usr/bin/firefox ln: failed to creat…

Why not use your package manager?

Re: Ciao, Chrome: Firefox Quantum Is the Browser Built for 2017

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Anyone have thoughts on the opt-out telemetry default? I had to read the privacy notice they open on start to find out that telemetry was enabled by default.

My gut reaction was to be suspicious of Mozilla, but then I remembered that they're Mozilla. They're probably just trying to figure out which features are confusing for users. It's strange because we do this type of tracking in all facets of webapps, but desktop apps trigger our suspicion meter.

Desktop apps are much more intrusive then web apps.

Re: Ciao, Chrome: Firefox Quantum Is the Browser Built for 2017

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Used Nightly for a few weeks before and after Quantum.

Definitely a huge improvement. The web response showed it. But I went back to chrome for the last few days. For 2 windows / 20 tabs it's definitely faster in just enough places to make a difference.

Re: Ciao, Chrome: Firefox Quantum Is the Browser Built for 2017

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post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fake news sites (real fake news, not how Trump uses it) are malware for the mind. These are things that are 100% fictional and made up to deceive readers for clicks.

> "real fake news" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slippery_slope or (to play coy): you're suggesting we block fiction from the internet...?

Fake news is a distinct category of story that is easily quantified. It is a real problem that the United States faces and if we don't attempt to combat it, discourse will suffer. Since you're a fan of Wikipedia articles, try reading this one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fake_news_websites_in_the_Unit...

Re: Ciao, Chrome: Firefox Quantum Is the Browser Built for 2017

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> I can't use the Conde Nast CMS in anything other than Chrome, so I can't switch completely. Highlight of the article tucked in at the end there.

I always wondered why they branded Chromecast with Chrome, it has almost nothing to do with a browser besides the funny gimmick where you could show a web page through it. Maybe an implementation detail.

I suppose I get it now. It was originally just branding to promote a Chrome monopoly, and now it's an artificial exclusive feature. I love the idea of Chromecast but it's sad that it's still so closed off.

Re: Ciao, Chrome: Firefox Quantum Is the Browser Built for 2017

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post #28

I wish they had some better UX designers. Hit the download button and I get a .bz2 file with no install scripts whatsoever. $ tar jxvf firefox-57.0.tar.bz2 $ cd firefox $ mkdir /usr/local/firefox mkdir: cannot create directory '/usr/local/firefox': Permission denied $ sudo su Password: # mkdir /usr/local/firefox # cp -rv * /usr/local/firefox/ ... # ln -s /usr/local/firefox/firefox /usr/bin/firefox ln: failed to creat…

A .deb file would only work on certain distributions. Why wouldn't you use your distro's package manager to download Firefox? I guess it might be helpful to have a note on their site telling Linux users just that.
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