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Re: Samsung DeX

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Post by FireBeyond »

seanmcdirmid wrote: post #156
FireBeyond wrote: post #147

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Dell's U2718Q comes close. http://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/dell-ultrasharp-27-4k-monitor... The bezel is < 1/4". I have two side by side and the combined bezels are .45" as near as I can measure.

Even in their advertising, the bezels are still incredibly obvious. There is something magical about the screen ending where the background begins. Even the iPhone X’s bezel is kind of disappointing (though still pretty cool).

Oh, I agree. It's still noticeable, absolutely. I tend to be "unaware" of it as I work, but that's as much psychological. It is about half as wide as the previous Dell (P2715Q), but still... the thinner the better.

Re: Samsung DeX

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Post by tomc1985 »

Man, lots of disclaimers here :/

* UI of the actual product may be different.

* Microsoft Office requires users to purchase licenses.

* Microsoft Word and Microsoft PowerPoint require a download to use.

* DeX Station and HDMI / Charging cable are sold separately.

* Screen image simulated.

* Certain apps may not run or require license (for purchase) on Samsung DeX.

* DeX Station supports Galaxy S8/S8+ and Note8.

Re: Samsung DeX

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Post by numbsafari »

spike021 wrote: post #78
numbsafari wrote: post #38

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I would love this. I’m sick of lugging a heavy aluminum notebook around. I want to drop my phone into a cradle or have it wirelessly connect to a KVM setup so I can launch into a desktop session for running tmux and a browser. Wish this worked with iOS.

Many of the newer laptops aren't very heavy at all. My Macbook Air is aluminum and can fit in a small backpack/messenger bag. Unless you just want to not be carrying anything.

I don't want to carry anything but a phone, unless I have to.

I've been carrying a backpack for work for, I dunno, 4 years now? Lately I've taken to just leaving my laptop at work on weekends and I really enjoy the trip to/from the office those days. I commute via public transit or walk, it's only 2 miles and we have decent busses here in Philly. Not having to deal with a bag of any kind is really nice.

The current MacBook Air has slower CPU (single- and multi-core) compared to the latest iPhone 8/X.

At the end of the day, I'd love to grab my phone off a cradle and then, when I get home, if I need to keep working, drop it in a different cradle and have my window session ready and waiting for me. As a GCP user, basically 100% of my development consists of browser sessions and tmux sessions. That should be really portable state on a phone.

Re: Samsung DeX

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Post by dragonwriter »

FreakyT wrote: post #13

It's definitely neat, but I feel like this has been done before without success -- examples like the Motorola Atrix, Windows Continuum, and even the cancelled Ubuntu Phone come to mind. (And, going further back in time, let's not forget the Palm Foleo!) It seems like a neat idea on the surface though, so I wonder why as a concept the phone-connected-to-desktop-peripherals thing hasn't gained more traction. My suspici…

> Who happens to keep desktop peripherals on their desk but only does lightweight productivity tasks?

On the local machine? People whose serious work is done remotely, e.g., using Virtual Desktop infrastructure or cloud services. Heck, with even gaming starting to be doable remotely in the cloud, it's more credible every day that people can live with just light productivity and persistent browser state locally.

Re: Samsung DeX

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Post by hello2 »

Fnoord wrote: post #218
hello2 wrote: post #164

I've been using a Dex for about 6 months, exclusively, including now. It has some annoying bugs: * you can't select text very well, only in some cases (for example in the browser address bar) * some applications simply can't run (for example firefox mobile), but they are very few * zoom with the scroll doesn't work in most cases (google maps) * can't zoom in with the scroll in the browser , and when it does, the incr…

Perhaps a silly question but are you able to access the DeX data in Android and vice versa?

Yes, you can. There is no separation between the data, it's the same data, you access it normally from both. There's even Total Command for Android, which works very similar to the windows version.

Re: Samsung DeX

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Post by dragonwriter »

jzymbaluk wrote: post #19

Very cool. I wonder how much crossover or competition there's going to be between Dex and Chromebooks, considering that lots of Chrome OS laptops are running android apps now. I guess it's a race to see whether Samsung phones can become desktops before Chromebooks can become phones

Samsung's on both sides of that game, so it's win-win for them.

Re: Samsung DeX

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Post by fsiefken »

asciimo wrote: post #49
fsiefken wrote: post #32

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You can already do this (for at least two years) with Linux Deploy on Android and VNC to localhost. You start an Ubuntu image within Android and connect to it through an Android VNC client. Keyboard, monitor and mouse can be done through cabling or wireless. I use VR in Samsung GearVR. https://www.androidauthority.com/install-ubuntu-on-your-andr...

By "use VR..." do you mean that use a VNC client in VR mode? How is the resolution?

It's good enough for basic use of apps. I can read my e-books fine, browsing works as well. Yes, the letters are a bit dotty, but that's not an impediment. It's less comfortable as using a high res physical screen in front of you, but for terminal work it doesn't matter that much. I'm not sure about the resolution 1024x768 or higher depending on how close you are to the virtual screen. Do you remember working with 1024x768 screens? It's like that

Re: Samsung DeX

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Post by bergie »

Fnoord wrote: post #217
kayoone wrote: post #178

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The time is not right yet, but mobile hardware gets faster a rapid pace and the upcoming Linux on Galaxy [1] might change things to be more useful. [1] https://seap.samsung.com/linux-on-galaxy

Oh, I assumed DeX was Samsung's Linux on Galaxy project. What's under the hood with both? What kind of OS is DeX? What kind of DE would Linux on Galaxy run?

DeX is a dock that tells your phone to go to "desktop mode". It is still Android.

With "Linux on Galaxy" I guess you'd be running whatever DE you like. Unless they've done it differently and you're in DeX desktop but can run full Linux apps there. Not sure.

Re: Samsung DeX

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Post by StudentStuff »

Fnoord wrote: post #219
StudentStuff wrote: post #141

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Thinkpads have gotten shockingly thin and light, all while improving spilled liquid resistance and enhancing the cooling. The T440 and newer seems to have been a complete redesign, a 14 inch laptop that weighs 1.8kg and is neither too big or too small. Slap a 1080p or 2560p panel in it, and the laptop is a monster!

Its a double-edged sword. The elephant in the room is the disadvantage that you can't open them anymore to replace hardware. Monster described it accurately. What newer laptops have is USB-C/TB3 and that allows for eGPU. Which means you no longer need to own a PC if you're a gamer (and don't wanna opt for game console).

Huh? About the only major change is the CPU is no longer socketed, besides that I can swap every other component willy nilly ala a T420. Soldered CPUs are quite a bit more durable, and replacement mobos are sub-$100, not the worst tradeoff to save a few mm.

Re: Samsung DeX

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Post by StudentStuff »

terminalcommand wrote: post #170
StudentStuff wrote: post #141

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thinkpads have gotten shockingly thin and light, all while improving spilled liquid resistance and enhancing the cooling. The T440 and newer seems to have been a complete redesign, a 14 inch laptop that weighs 1.8kg and is neither too big or too small. Slap a 1080p or 2560p panel in it, and the laptop is a monster!

For lightness I think the x series are a much better choice. I've been using an x201 for many years now. Even at its old age, it's suprisingly light to today's standards and has decent battery life.

Yeah, hooked a friend up with an x230 iirc for cheap, and she really likes it. 12" form factor just isn't for me though, I had a x100e for a month as a loaner, and man was its screen small (nevermind the spaceheater OG APU it had). Made me thankful for 14" screens and newer process technology allowing AMD and Intel to make chips that don't melt my legs!
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