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Re: Samsung DeX

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Post by DennisAleynikov »

vfXander wrote: post #114
Risinia wrote: post #87

Okay, I will reformulate my reply here since I read all the answers just now. As I said earlier, I backered a promising lapdock with the Smartphone as the central source of power. It allows you to plug your phone to a laptop device with a 13" screen, trackpad and speakers. I am just dropping you this here if you want more information about the Mirabook from Miraxess : https://miraxess.com/miraxess-products/mirabook/

That's pretty much like Sentio (old Andronium Superbook). I backed one while ago, finally I should receive mine within a month!

Same can't wait for the superbooks to ship! It will truly complete my phone as a transforming computer dream. I've already fully switched to only using DeX as a desktop environment, and I'm in the Nov-Dec batch for Sentio :)

I've already got a lot done even without the superbook, with all the delays they've had haha. https://www.youtube.com/c/DennisAleynikov

Re: Samsung DeX

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Post by SparkleBunny »

hello2 wrote: post #164

I've been using a Dex for about 6 months, exclusively, including now. It has some annoying bugs: * you can't select text very well, only in some cases (for example in the browser address bar) * some applications simply can't run (for example firefox mobile), but they are very few * zoom with the scroll doesn't work in most cases (google maps) * can't zoom in with the scroll in the browser , and when it does, the incr…

Hello fellow dex user. I had the same experience with firefox and discovered a "solution" - DEX developer mode [1].

Yeah, zooming is a fucking mess. To zoom in firefox, doubleclick the mouse, and while HOLDING ON THE SECOND CLICK you can move the mouse up and down to zoom. Neither control +/- and control + scroll wheel work.

Selecting text: click on a word and hold the mouse button down. This works exactly like long-pressing on a touchscreen and getting the text select pop-up.

[1] https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-8/help/firefox-...

Re: Samsung DeX

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Post by DennisAleynikov »

fsiefken wrote: post #32
artursapek wrote: post #2

How long until I'm able to have my Ubuntu environment on a phone and plug it directly into my monitor, keyboard, and mouse? We already have the OS and peripherals, what's missing? It's not storage on the phone; Apple is selling 256GB iPhones. Is it the processing power?

You can already do this (for at least two years) with Linux Deploy on Android and VNC to localhost. You start an Ubuntu image within Android and connect to it through an Android VNC client. Keyboard, monitor and mouse can be done through cabling or wireless. I use VR in Samsung GearVR. https://www.androidauthority.com/install-ubuntu-on-your-andr...

if only phonecast would support running the dex environment. I would literally not leave gear vr ever again.

Re: Samsung DeX

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Post by DennisAleynikov »

schappim wrote: post #21
artursapek wrote: post #2

How long until I'm able to have my Ubuntu environment on a phone and plug it directly into my monitor, keyboard, and mouse? We already have the OS and peripherals, what's missing? It's not storage on the phone; Apple is selling 256GB iPhones. Is it the processing power?

You can already do this today. I was doing it on my Samsung Galaxy S3 back in the day. Essentially you install Ubuntu on top of Android. You then VNC to the Ubuntu Desktop from Android. Android (using USB on the go) out of the box supports keyboard and mouse. Not all devices support MicroHDMI, but the S3 did.

Yeah, suprisingly samsung has been sleeper developing something like DeX since the s3, and MHL was pretty dope for the time. Excited that samsung believes in the vision of the one device life.

Re: Samsung DeX

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Post by pjmlp »

make3 wrote: post #17
pjmlp wrote: post #14

Canonical and Microsoft were there first, not sure if I want to see Samsung winning it.

didn't canonical give up

Both gave up, the point was who was there first and me not being too found of Samsung.

Re: Samsung DeX

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Post by pjmlp »

bigiain wrote: post #41
anilshanbhag wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think the price comparison is fair. If someone spends 700$ on a phone, he would be ok spending 200$ if the system does work smoothly. What I think people are more skeptic about is performance and user experience.

Except most people don't think of themselves as "someone who spends $700 on a phone", they pay $x9.95/month for $y00 minutes talktime plus $zGB of data and they get a "free" phone every two years... I doubt any of those people would think it's a good idea to spend an extra ~$15/month for a thing that lets them plug a screen/keyboard/mouse into their "free" phone.

Not everywhere.

Here in Europe, contracts are the exception not the rule.

Most people just charge with 15 to 20 euros their SIM card whenever they feel like it, and have to pay full price for mobile phone.

Or pay it in rates to only have it unlocked from the network at the end of two years, so they are going to use that phone until it dies or gets stolen.

Re: Samsung DeX

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Post by DennisAleynikov »

throw2016 wrote: post #138
cbhl wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the biggest problem is the price point. The person who most wants to use their phone as a PC is the person who can't afford spending $4000 on the entire suite of Apple devices. That person probably also can't afford a $100 dock (let alone a $300 one) for their phone. When someone makes a USB-C/Thunderbolt/Intel/Windows device that is phone sized but runs legacy Windows applications (like MS Paint and Quickboo…

The Huawei Mate has the same feature and uses a normal hdmi connector. Infact I recollect seeing a youtube video[1] and there is probably a thread on xda [2] that got Samsung Dex working with a normal usb-c to hdmi connector. It's a useful feature and because we already have too many devices finds little use but once its seamless it could offer many possibilities. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s50GWuKphTI [2] h…

Yeah, DeX used some relatively obscure DisplayPort based implementation of Usb-C to HDMI, as long as you're using that (might be called slimport) it works. I'm getting away with using a $20 dongle.

Re: Samsung DeX

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Post by kayoone »

FreakyT wrote: post #13

It's definitely neat, but I feel like this has been done before without success -- examples like the Motorola Atrix, Windows Continuum, and even the cancelled Ubuntu Phone come to mind. (And, going further back in time, let's not forget the Palm Foleo!) It seems like a neat idea on the surface though, so I wonder why as a concept the phone-connected-to-desktop-peripherals thing hasn't gained more traction. My suspici…

The time is not right yet, but mobile hardware gets faster a rapid pace and the upcoming Linux on Galaxy [1] might change things to be more useful.

[1] https://seap.samsung.com/linux-on-galaxy

Re: Samsung DeX

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Post by petecox »

ksk wrote: post #28
revelation wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For all of 5 minutes until it's thermally throttled. They never tell you that on the "GeekBench". But yes, for those 5 minutes, it has somewhat the same performance as one of the eight processors on the 1800x. Frankly, 1/8th 1800x and a whole A11 is about the same power budget, so that's not entirely surprising.

Yeah, also even if you could get rid of the thermal throttling, you're still dumping all that heat into the phone's body which could overheat/damage other components.

The DeX product page explicitly says Built-in cooling fan, so they're definitely aware of overheating.

Re: Samsung DeX

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Post by EddieSpeaks »

It’s a great achievement, but the Dex dock costs over $200 so it makes more sense to just have an Intel NuC or a Compute stick mounted there instead. If the doc wasn’t needed and you could just plug it in to the USB-C it would make a lot more sense
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