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Re: Samsung DeX

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Post by solatic »

FreakyT wrote: post #13

It's definitely neat, but I feel like this has been done before without success -- examples like the Motorola Atrix, Windows Continuum, and even the cancelled Ubuntu Phone come to mind. (And, going further back in time, let's not forget the Palm Foleo!) It seems like a neat idea on the surface though, so I wonder why as a concept the phone-connected-to-desktop-peripherals thing hasn't gained more traction. My suspici…

The technology is still too immature. Mobile apps aren't designed for desktop UIs, so mobile apps thrown up on a desktop monitor are going to suck. Desktop apps are usually compiled for x86 and not ARM, so you can't run desktop apps within a desktop environment that's thrown up on a monitor by your phone.

Microsoft has been trying to throw Windows onto ARM for a long time, to no commercial success, because the entire value proposition is the enormous back catalog of Win32 applications which will never run performantly on ARM. So the best bet is Linux leading the change, with Linux on ARM powering desktops and driving demand for desktop apps to be compiled to ARM - but yeah, not going to happen any time soon.

Re: Samsung DeX

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Post by hypertoast »

DennisAleynikov wrote: post #166
synicalx wrote: post #92

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I'm curious, how are finding performance for basic stuff like web browsing? Real bummer to hear about the RDP app, that was a big incentive for me, but it's no use if it won't go full screen

I've been stress testing my dex setup and it's surprisingly performant. To push it to the limits I decided to start a youtube channel documenting how it goes and I'm not even using the official DeX station, just a $20 ripoff from china. It's been suprisingly powerful to edit video on and even have all the files on same device. Even the adobe suite is suprisingly well implemented on android. I find that any issue I ha…

Would you mind sharing your clone that you have tried?? Thanks

Re: Samsung DeX

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Post by ungzd »

How does it work? What OS is there? Some kind of Windows for ARM? How does it work in parallel with Android? Or is it just Android but with resizable overlapping windows?

Re: Samsung DeX

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Post by zhte415 »

pjmlp wrote: post #209
robin_reala wrote: post #195

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That data is from 2012. I don’t have any feeling for what it currently is (most people I know are on contract, but that’s specifically the people I know), so it would be good to see up to date data.

I know, but it was the only one I could quickly find out. As teamhappy pointed out, I am kind of wrong, as the data did indeed change for contracts, but was is still low in 2015 regarding southern countries, the ones I tend to visit regularly. But it would still be nice to know if someone can point out to 2017 data.

China is cited by an OP. No serious options in China for contract phone.

What has become super common is for home cable provider to provide SIM with around 2G of data in order to pay monthly broadband charge. SIM recharge being easier than vanilla broadband recharge.

Re: Samsung DeX

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Post by metaphor »

SyneRyder wrote: post #191
metaphor wrote: post #148

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> ...enough bandwidth to push 4K at a decent refresh rate. What general productivity task at mobile compute scale would optimally leverage 4K resolution at a decent refresh rate?

Photoshop, perhaps? The DeX already runs a version of Photoshop, and the Samsung store folks were pushing the DeX as an option for website development, especially as their browser supports both desktop & mobile modes. (If I recall correctly, I think he even said the desktop browser has some developer tools built-in, but I haven't been back to the store to check that.)

I'm not certain Photoshop can be classified as general productivity, but if we gave it the benefit of the doubt anyways and further assumed end-users would somehow benefit immensely from such a high resolution, then I'm still not seeing were decent refresh rate fits snuggly into the imperative.

Re: Samsung DeX

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Post by Fnoord »

kayoone wrote: post #178
FreakyT wrote: post #13

It's definitely neat, but I feel like this has been done before without success -- examples like the Motorola Atrix, Windows Continuum, and even the cancelled Ubuntu Phone come to mind. (And, going further back in time, let's not forget the Palm Foleo!) It seems like a neat idea on the surface though, so I wonder why as a concept the phone-connected-to-desktop-peripherals thing hasn't gained more traction. My suspici…

The time is not right yet, but mobile hardware gets faster a rapid pace and the upcoming Linux on Galaxy [1] might change things to be more useful. [1] https://seap.samsung.com/linux-on-galaxy

Oh, I assumed DeX was Samsung's Linux on Galaxy project. What's under the hood with both? What kind of OS is DeX? What kind of DE would Linux on Galaxy run?

Re: Samsung DeX

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Post by Fnoord »

hello2 wrote: post #164

I've been using a Dex for about 6 months, exclusively, including now. It has some annoying bugs: * you can't select text very well, only in some cases (for example in the browser address bar) * some applications simply can't run (for example firefox mobile), but they are very few * zoom with the scroll doesn't work in most cases (google maps) * can't zoom in with the scroll in the browser , and when it does, the incr…

Perhaps a silly question but are you able to access the DeX data in Android and vice versa?

Re: Samsung DeX

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Post by Fnoord »

StudentStuff wrote: post #141
spike021 wrote: post #78

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Many of the newer laptops aren't very heavy at all. My Macbook Air is aluminum and can fit in a small backpack/messenger bag. Unless you just want to not be carrying anything.

Thinkpads have gotten shockingly thin and light, all while improving spilled liquid resistance and enhancing the cooling. The T440 and newer seems to have been a complete redesign, a 14 inch laptop that weighs 1.8kg and is neither too big or too small. Slap a 1080p or 2560p panel in it, and the laptop is a monster!

Its a double-edged sword. The elephant in the room is the disadvantage that you can't open them anymore to replace hardware. Monster described it accurately.

What newer laptops have is USB-C/TB3 and that allows for eGPU. Which means you no longer need to own a PC if you're a gamer (and don't wanna opt for game console).

Re: Samsung DeX

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Post by dangerboysteve »

I think as a standalone product DeX will fail or have very limited adoption. Now if all the players can get together and make it some sort of industry standard then you have something.
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