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Re: LA Times barred from Disney movies after report on corporate welfare

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Let's just start selling the role outright. It would be more efficient, most likely lead to the same result, and avoiding the grating, bullshit horserace coverage for a year would make everyone's live better.

This is a funny joke, but empirically not true as of this last election. Hillary massively out spent Trump.

Only in official spending. Third parties aren't counted so it's a mostly meaningless measure. All it means is Hillary was worse at hiding the contributions to her campaign.

Re: LA Times barred from Disney movies after report on corporate welfare

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Aren't all video game review sites like this? All AAA games get inflated scores to not offend the studios.

The main difference is that gamers are much better connected than movie goers I think. This sort of behavior might not have as many repercussions for movie studios as it does for gaming studios.

Re: LA Times barred from Disney movies after report on corporate welfare

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post #41

I think municipalities should be free to make the best deal they can with large employers like this. Chips fall where they may. They are all elected officials so therefore directly accountable. Seems like the system is working just fine here. Doesn't seem like this is anyone else's business.

Are you paid for this opinion? I have to imagine yes.

I paid him like $10, totally worth it.

Re: LA Times barred from Disney movies after report on corporate welfare

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I think municipalities should be free to make the best deal they can with large employers like this. Chips fall where they may. They are all elected officials so therefore directly accountable. Seems like the system is working just fine here. Doesn't seem like this is anyone else's business.

> They are all "elected" officials so therefore "directly" "accountable".

Please look into how campaign funding works. The fundamental problem is that if you employ half of the city, you have quite a bit more leverage than the mayor.

Re: LA Times barred from Disney movies after report on corporate welfare

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Aren't all video game review sites like this? All AAA games get inflated scores to not offend the studios.

Giantbomb doesn't, as far as I can tell. Jeff Gerstmann started the site shortly after he was let go from GameSpot (rumored) for posting a low-score review of a game which was advertising heavily on their platform.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Gerstmann#Termination_fro...

Re: LA Times barred from Disney movies after report on corporate welfare

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Below I've linked a few more. It's a bit of a prisoner's dilemma: whichever media outlets don't participate in the boycott will have a competitive advantage when they put out early reviews, but it hurts all outlets if Disney is able to pull off the intimidation power play. http://flavorwire.com/611229/an-editorial-note-re-disney-and... https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/act-four/wp/2017/11/06/w... https://www.avclub…

Implying people go out of their way to read Disney movie reviews. People who go see these movies are probably parents with children. Your average 5-yo doesn't make the decision whether or not to see "German fairy tales 5: Snow white harder" based on the review in Hollywood Tribune.

Disney puts out a lot of films, many through subsidiaries. Certainly Disney Children's Animated Film is going to get a lot of ticket sales regardless of reviews, but Marvel Comic Book Movie: The Comic Book We All Forgot About is something I'd like to check a review for -- especially if I'm considering bringing my child, I want to have some idea of what lines its crossing.

Re: LA Times barred from Disney movies after report on corporate welfare

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And people keep pushing back against the notion that the government shouldn't be giving out money to anyone other than for core governmental services like administrating and servicing the three branches of government and equipping the military. The government shouldn't be in the business of supporting Disney any more than it should support some deadbeat, nor Silicon Valley, let alone foreigners or foreign governments.

Re: LA Times barred from Disney movies after report on corporate welfare

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post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Below I've linked a few more. It's a bit of a prisoner's dilemma: whichever media outlets don't participate in the boycott will have a competitive advantage when they put out early reviews, but it hurts all outlets if Disney is able to pull off the intimidation power play. http://flavorwire.com/611229/an-editorial-note-re-disney-and... https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/act-four/wp/2017/11/06/w... https://www.avclub…

Implying people go out of their way to read Disney movie reviews. People who go see these movies are probably parents with children. Your average 5-yo doesn't make the decision whether or not to see "German fairy tales 5: Snow white harder" based on the review in Hollywood Tribune.

Marvel films are covered by this as well.

Re: LA Times barred from Disney movies after report on corporate welfare

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post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Implying people go out of their way to read Disney movie reviews. People who go see these movies are probably parents with children. Your average 5-yo doesn't make the decision whether or not to see "German fairy tales 5: Snow white harder" based on the review in Hollywood Tribune.

Disney puts out a lot of films, many through subsidiaries. Certainly Disney Children's Animated Film is going to get a lot of ticket sales regardless of reviews, but Marvel Comic Book Movie: The Comic Book We All Forgot About is something I'd like to check a review for -- especially if I'm considering bringing my child, I want to have some idea of what lines its crossing.

Good point. Idk how I forgot about that.
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