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Re: LA Times barred from Disney movies after report on corporate welfare

#31
I think municipalities should be free to make the best deal they can with large employers like this. Chips fall where they may. They are all elected officials so therefore directly accountable. Seems like the system is working just fine here.

Doesn't seem like this is anyone else's business.

Re: LA Times barred from Disney movies after report on corporate welfare

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post #5

> Disney CEO Bob Iger is said to have ordered the retaliatory measure against the LA Times, and is also thought to be considering a 2020 presidential bid, which augurs poorly for his approach to the free press. Wow, I hadn't heard this was a possibility until now. I sure am looking forward to seeing which of the many {m/b}illionaires ends up winning the presidency in 2020! How about we just cut out the middlemen and…

And the federal government finances all of the bidding.

Re: LA Times barred from Disney movies after report on corporate welfare

#33

I feel like things like this are a fundamental social problem. How can this be prevented?

Pass a Constitutional amendment that states that corporations are not people. Then start passing laws that restrict the free speech of corporations and then pass more laws stating that money is speech. Then there can be fine tuned laws stating the max that a person can give to a candidate and start forcing all organizations that have anything to do with politics to register and state who is giving them money. Eliminate all anonymous donations.

It is highly unlikely this is going to happen.

Re: LA Times barred from Disney movies after report on corporate welfare

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post #5

> Disney CEO Bob Iger is said to have ordered the retaliatory measure against the LA Times, and is also thought to be considering a 2020 presidential bid, which augurs poorly for his approach to the free press. Wow, I hadn't heard this was a possibility until now. I sure am looking forward to seeing which of the many {m/b}illionaires ends up winning the presidency in 2020! How about we just cut out the middlemen and…

> Most money offered gets to be president.

But even that doesn't work. In 2016 for the US presidency, Hillary Clinton's campaign had $790M USD versus Donald Trump's $408M USD.

She had double the money 'to buy the presidency' and she still lost.

https://www.opensecrets.org/pres16

Re: LA Times barred from Disney movies after report on corporate welfare

#36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Most money offered gets to be president. Didn't seem to work very well for Hillary... (I know this sounds like a cheap shot, but it completely breaks down your argument)

$2B in free media attention helped a bit, I'd imagine. https://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/16/upshot/measuring-donald-t...

Oh hey are we under a post about a guy running for president that he didn't pay for?

Re: LA Times barred from Disney movies after report on corporate welfare

#37
post #5

> Disney CEO Bob Iger is said to have ordered the retaliatory measure against the LA Times, and is also thought to be considering a 2020 presidential bid, which augurs poorly for his approach to the free press. Wow, I hadn't heard this was a possibility until now. I sure am looking forward to seeing which of the many {m/b}illionaires ends up winning the presidency in 2020! How about we just cut out the middlemen and…

> Most money offered gets to be president. But even that doesn't work. In 2016 for the US presidency, Hillary Clinton's campaign had $790M USD versus Donald Trump's $408M USD. She had double the money 'to buy the presidency' and she still lost. https://www.opensecrets.org/pres16

Does that count the amount of free press Trump received during the campaign?

Re: LA Times barred from Disney movies after report on corporate welfare

#38
post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a funny joke, but empirically not true as of this last election. Hillary massively out spent Trump.

Trump got several billion dollars in free coverage. No one would care about Trump if he was not Trump.

the vast majority negative.

what it really shows that it takes an incredible level of personal wealth and fame to beat the two party system and even then he had to usurp one of parties to do it.

I have no problem with his wealth and fame, I have a problem of it being an example of how much it takes to break the stranglehold those two parties have on our system. worse they use people and wealth like his as the means to implement rules to prevent outsiders from rising

Re: LA Times barred from Disney movies after report on corporate welfare

#40
This is similar to the tactic used by Harvey Weinstein to discourage newspapers from reporting on rape allegations against him.

Journalists that participated in the cover-up got access to his film premieres, parties at award ceremonies, interviews with celebrities and so on. Turns out that was enough to get every entertainment journalist to cover up his crimes for years.

Apparently people in Hollywood don't see any problem with this!

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