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Letting users skip our paywall if they wrote an apology

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Re: Letting users skip our paywall if they wrote an apology

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Post by Sir_Cmpwn »

soared wrote: post #170
Sir_Cmpwn wrote: post #168

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You don't need to know any of that. You just need to open Windows Movie Maker (is that still pre-installed?) and spend 10 minutes familiarizing yourself with its simple UI and 30 seconds making the video.

Eh well my point is still it takes 30 seconds with their tool and some multiple of 30 seconds to do it myself. There is some value and making things quickly.

I understand your point and I think it's pedantic and silly. For all practical purposes this tool is worthless. Guilting people into paying for it is laugahable.

Re: Letting users skip our paywall if they wrote an apology

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Post by majewsky »

pjc50 wrote: post #113
sitkack wrote: post #54

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So if true federated non-statist, non-corp entity login actually worked we would probably comment freely and purchase stuff in 0.10-0.50 increments? Mozilla should be a payments platform.

The browser vendors are the only actors who might be able to make this work.

Seeing how Google makes basically all its money from internet ads, I don't think they have any interest to enable other monetization schemes. (Unless, of course, something makes them believe that ads are going to become unattractive and they need to pivot.)

Re: Letting users skip our paywall if they wrote an apology

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Post by s17n »

Veen wrote: post #137
s17n wrote: post #52

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Uh huh tell me more about these "things" that you "do". If there's a web app that I want to use, I whitelist it for js. For general browsing, I keep it off. Ironically, this works fine for the same reason that paywalls will never succeed - there is so much content out there that any individual piece of it has essentially no value.

> there is so much content out there that any individual piece of it has essentially no value Zero multiplied by anything is zero, so if all individual pieces of content are worthless, so is content as a whole. But of course that's not true because content isn't fungible. There's an infinity of content, but, unless you think a cat meme listicle is equivalent to War and Peace, it doesn't matter. The best content will…

I'm talking about browsing HN - nothing getting posted here is equivalent to War and Peace. If a particular link doesn't work because of javascript, I can just go on to the next one.

Re: Letting users skip our paywall if they wrote an apology

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Post by mirimir »

thisacctforreal wrote: post #59
mirimir wrote: post #55

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Right, and Mirimir has no credit cards :( I used to argue for Bitcoin, but at $6K that's crazy. However, a EZPass-like token funded with cards, cryptocurrencies, money in the mail, etc. That would be cool.

Being pedantic; the fluctuation is what’s crazy, if they started at $6k it’d be no problem because you’d just think in terms of thousandths of BTC (or even satoshis) instead of whole coins.

The problem is the transaction fees needed for timely confirmation.

Re: Letting users skip our paywall if they wrote an apology

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Post by mirimir »

unreal37 wrote: post #144
mirimir wrote: post #55

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Right, and Mirimir has no credit cards :( I used to argue for Bitcoin, but at $6K that's crazy. However, a EZPass-like token funded with cards, cryptocurrencies, money in the mail, etc. That would be cool.

What's the transaction fee on a Bitcoin transaction these days? Minimum $1.50? With a 15- or 30-minute delay on confirmations? Not for micro- nor instant-transactions.

Yes, that was my issue. I normally set ~0.5 mBTC, but that's $3 now. That gives you an hour or less. At ~0.2 mBTC, it can take hours to confirm. However, for small payments, some accept with no confirmations, and just eat any loss.

Re: Letting users skip our paywall if they wrote an apology

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Post by mirimir »

Cyphase wrote: post #60
mirimir wrote: post #55

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Right, and Mirimir has no credit cards :( I used to argue for Bitcoin, but at $6K that's crazy. However, a EZPass-like token funded with cards, cryptocurrencies, money in the mail, etc. That would be cool.

> I used to argue for Bitcoin, but at $6K that's crazy. Well, Bitcoin may not be good for micropayments, but that's not the reason; you don't have to have integer numbers of bitcoin, you can have 0.00016666 bitcoins (~$1 at $6k/BTC).

Yes. But it's the transaction fees. Sorry to not make that clear.

Re: Letting users skip our paywall if they wrote an apology

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Post by freeloop3 »

michaelt wrote: post #116
freeloop3 wrote: post #28

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Stop spreading FUD. I spent 10c sending a transaction for $20 a month ago.

Smallest transaction I've seen is 191 bytes; [1] says right now to get a transaction in the next block the minimum fee is 240 satoshis/byte; and that today the 251-260 satoshis/byte has been the most common fee. That's $2.82 according to [2]. And that's with current levels of demand - if there was a transaction every time someone visited a website, demand would be much, much higher. [1] https://bitcoinfees.earn.com/…

Yes, you're right. I miscalculated the fee. I actually paid $1 and was not trying to get it in the next block.

Re: Letting users skip our paywall if they wrote an apology

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Post by bartread »

shmerl wrote: post #148
bartread wrote: post #66

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Greed? It's a startup posting on Hacker News about how they're trying to build a business, which is right in the bullseye of the Hacker News schtick as far as I can tell. Since when has it been greedy to try and make a living, even doing something random and frivolous? The world needs random and frivolous things. Regardless, I thought it was an interesting experiment.

Wrong article. I was posting in this thread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15591020 but misplaced the comment.

Haha - classic. I've done that before too.

Re: Letting users skip our paywall if they wrote an apology

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Post by chx »

sli wrote: post #150
chx wrote: post #39

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Don't bother, the HN crowd will downvote this hard, bitter truth. I had this conversation N times, my argument is roughly this: "There's no legit use of bitcoin. Main usages are a) pyramid-like hold-and-hype b) illegal money transfers out of China. No, ordinary people don't want to use it for international transfer because you need to go through hops to get Bitcoin on the sender end, even worse the receiver needs to…

The community here is much more reasonable than, say, reddit. Notice the comment hasn't been killed as you expected it would. People here understand pretty well the barrier between cryptocurrency and "regular people."

Want me to collect the links of my downvoted comments which said this exact same thing?
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