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It's interesting to see how quickly people will downplay and deny the actions of the Guardia Incivil. If the referendum is illegitimate, why suppress it? ;- )
Because they were planning to spend millions of euro in an illegal thing. Money directly stolen from people like you and me.
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They should have voted then.
The catalan parliament has approved the "independence" resolution (despite the parliament lawyers warning about the illegality of the voting) with 70 "yes" (out of 135 seats).
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No, the people in spanish gov are not nationalists. I have a lot of bad things to say against Rajoy but nationalist is not one. And no, non-nationalists are not hostages. We are sick and tired of nationalism and most of us would have wanted the government to react much sooner to the abuses, specially the non-nationalists living in Catalonia that are the ones that have suffered this situation more directly.
I don't know under what prism you do not consider the PP party not nationalists, when they are the direct successors of the Spanish National Catolicism movement that ruled Spain under Franco's dictatorship.
PP is a standard conservative party, equivalent to Puigdemont's CiU (now PDCAT) and that has been in the government with the support of CiU for years, during Aznar times.
PP turned a blind eye to catalonian nationalists' abuses when they needed them to keep power. Now they're starting to see the consequences.
Rajoy must be the laziest prime minister the world has seen. He wouldn't move a finger without absolute need for it. Even in this dramatic situtation he has hold his breath until he was risking stiff penal prosecution for himself had he not acted!!
Suggesting he is promoting the escalating is not only untrue, it's ridiculous.
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I wonder what’s your take on Crimea and Russia in this case.
If an identifiable geographic region wants to secede, and there is sufficient support among the public, it should be able to do so. Crimea I think falls into that group: 93% voting in favor of joining Russia with 83% turnout.
Out of curiosity, does anyone know how this has affected the economy and real estate market in Barcelona?
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The lesson here: allow the Chinese to create a real estate bubble, so your country can have the economic resources to placate and pay off places you've colonized. Within a decade of the Canadian real estate bubble pop, Quebec will be an independent nation. Mark my words.
Would you please stop posting flamebait and/or unsubstantive comments to Hacker News? We have enough trouble with flamewars as it is, and you've unfortunately been doing this quite a bit. If you'd read the guidelines and stick to them when commenting here, we'd appreciate it: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html .
I understand if you dislike my tone, and if you want to purge this place of people who aren't as docile as you'd prefer, and that's obviously your decision. But I'm not trolling. I am like this. Prior to hitting post, I turned to a colleague who was reading that comment and called the previous commenter names that I did not include in my post. But that's what you get with me. I'm quite possibly the best participant on this board when it comes to fintech, and my job is to think out of the box. That may mean that I act outside of the box, too, and if you want this place to not include people like me, so be it.
From my not so knowledgeable point of view we have: It seems the Spanish government messed up massively here. Instead of embracing a referendum about independence they decided to flatly declare it illegal and attempt to ignore the problem. If they initially embraced the referendum they could have won, I believe that a Yes vote to independence nearly always ends up failing. But instead what happened is, they blankly d…
I keep reading this in international media. The Spanish government didn't declare the referendum illegal. It was the top court, which is independent from the government. The government ensures that the law is applied once that is decided. That said, I think Spain should have held a referendum (by changing the constitution). Everything would have been much easier.
8 of them are proposed by the legislative branch (parliament and senate), 2 by the executive, and 2 by the judicial.
Whether that makes the tribunal as a whole independent from the government or not is an opinion I leave to the reader.
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> On the Catalan side, the Nationalist movement is used by dubious politicians which belong to the richer statements of Catalan society to grab power and "make history". In this case, though, these politicians do so at great personal risk. Many are already imprisoned. Even if Cataluña gains sovereignty, chances are that they will be held for high treason by the Spanish authorities. The Spanish authorities are taking…
is High Treason punishable by death in modern Spain?
Also, worth remembering, it is not High Treason if you win.
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“government” here seems to mean roughly what, in the American system, would be called the “administration” or “executive branch”. From the procedural descriptions, this looks less like what Americans would think of as a “request” or “petition” than passing a bill and sending it for the assent of the executive (which might be given or withheld), as is the typical mode of legislation in the US system (both at the feder…
It's not a bill, as it's not a law. It's a formal request to the executive branch to do something.