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Re: No, of that I'm innocent

#32
> There are a great many things in Seitz’s conversations I would prefer never be public, not because I did wrong by Seitz, but because where I have said I don’t really care about privacy online, I don’t feel that exposing my sexual fantasies or desires online as a text based “sex tape” is something anyone needs to see.

This part caught my eye as contradictory. Privacy doesn't matter unless it's ? I think that's precisely why privacy matters, and everyone has a different list of things that matter to them.

Re: No, of that I'm innocent

#33
tl;dr:

“[…] I have rejected my lawyer’s advice to not make a statement […] None of the women who came forward were ever in a position where I could make or break their careers. Sexual Harassment requires that I have such power. […] Each of the women who have come forward used grains of truth to sell false narrative. Perhaps because they felt peer pressure to join the #MeToo bandwagon, perhaps because they felt slighted for other reasons. I won’t [sic] speculate on their motives. […] And to some extent [I] did take advantage of [her]; […] ”

Re: No, of that I'm innocent

#34
post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Since it was originally addressed to me and you claim it is an honest question: Mostly not in work settings or work related settings, and much more carefully than in the past when dating norms hinged on the assumption that men were providers and women were destined to become homemakers. You have to consider how this impacts both your career and hers, not just yours alone. To give an example that I hope elucidates som…

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He was high up in a department I wanted a job in. I was not in the IT department, but I have a Certificate in GIS. He knew that and never wondered if I might be an asset to the IT department, nor if I might want to move to an IT position, which would have paid better than what I was doing.

I really don't like your second question for a long list of reasons. I don't really see that being a constructive dialogue.

Re: No, of that I'm innocent

#35
post #19

I have no knowledge of this issue specifically, but more generally, if you're even a somewhat public figure, I think the best course of action is to have a discreet 24/7 bodycam rolling to record all of your interactions. We're at a point where your career and social network can be torpedoed by anyone merely making a claim on social media. No police, no day in court, just allegations are enough.

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Re: No, of that I'm innocent

#36
Does anyone else find it bizarre that he writes "Quinn Norton, by her own account, physically accosted me[...] While it is admirable that Quinn wanted to defend the honor of another woman and the sanctity of marriage, perhaps she should have done so using the resources of the conference, or at a minimum in a manner that didn’t lead to her assaulting me," given that Norton's actual account is that he struck him because he put he grabbed her and put his arm around her?

"Most telling however is that she makes it clear that her assault of me was premeditated."

There's nothing about her account that suggests this.

Re: No, of that I'm innocent

#37
post #3

None of the women who came forward were ever in a position where I could make or break their careers. Sexual Harassment requires that I have such power. This is not true and it does not look good for him to say it: The legal and social understanding of sexual harassment, however, varies by culture. In the context of US employment, the harasser can be the victim's supervisor, a supervisor in another area, a co-worker,…

> I am pretty appalled to hear that he had an online text-based affair with a woman who outed him to his wife for apparently vindictive reasons.

So because of a relationship it absolves him of all his accusations? Should we just throw out the multiple stories accusing him of this just because of said relationship?

Guy straight up gaslighted these women so excuse me if I have zero sympathy for him.

Re: No, of that I'm innocent

#38

> I don’t have employees, I don’t cut checks for investment. None of the women who came forward were ever in a position where I could make or break their careers. Sexual Harassment requires that I have such power. This is an incredibly disgusting and miss-guided view of sexual harassment.

This paragraph clearly relates the allegations against him to those against Weinstein et al, who used their power of "making or breaking careers" to coerce women. If you do not possess such a power, as he argues, you cannot possibly commit this kind of sexual harassment.

Re: No, of that I'm innocent

#39
post #3

None of the women who came forward were ever in a position where I could make or break their careers. Sexual Harassment requires that I have such power. This is not true and it does not look good for him to say it: The legal and social understanding of sexual harassment, however, varies by culture. In the context of US employment, the harasser can be the victim's supervisor, a supervisor in another area, a co-worker,…

> I am pretty appalled to hear that he had an online text-based affair with a woman who outed him to his wife for apparently vindictive reasons. So because of a relationship it absolves him of all his accusations? Should we just throw out the multiple stories accusing him of this just because of said relationship? Guy straight up gaslighted these women so excuse me if I have zero sympathy for him.

You are reading an awful lot in that is not in my comment.

Re: No, of that I'm innocent

#40

Without making any moral judgments here, the guy has a valid point in that it's important to make a distinction between cheating in a relationship and sexual harassment. The former is a non-illegal, personal matter, and the latter is a criminal matter. I think most people probably aren't interested in making this distinction and would prefer to indiscriminately shun either kind of person, but this the importance of t…

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I don't know how you conclude from my comment, maybe you should reread it. I don't believe in social justice adjudicated by uninformed internet commenters, and caution against jumping to conclusions when you don't really know the facts. You're only reinforcing my point that sexual misconduct allegations are especially damaging, by misrepresenting my words and automatically assigning Scoble a guilty verdict.
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