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Anti-aging stem cell treatment proves successful in early human trials

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Re: Anti-aging stem cell treatment proves successful in early human trials

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Post by smitherfield »

14xx3 wrote: post #51

This is going to sound slightly tin-foilish, but the question needs to be asked: Are there rich/powerful people who are benefiting from anti-aging technology already? I'm thinking of Robert Mugabe (age 93) who regularly goes to East Asia, as an example, for medical treatment, but there seem to be others.

Heads of state tend to have staffs watching them all day, so they don't fall and break their hips, and drivers so they don't get into car accidents, and they get immediately rushed to the hospital every time they have even so much as a cold. That's why (US) ex-presidents are now routinely living into their 90's (and longer?).

Re: Anti-aging stem cell treatment proves successful in early human trials

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Post by saiya-jin »

14xx3 wrote: post #51

This is going to sound slightly tin-foilish, but the question needs to be asked: Are there rich/powerful people who are benefiting from anti-aging technology already? I'm thinking of Robert Mugabe (age 93) who regularly goes to East Asia, as an example, for medical treatment, but there seem to be others.

Reaching into 90s ain't that hard if you have OK genes and didn't fuck up along the way with addictions, or very bad lifestyle habits.

It's just that most people have a slightly destructive habit or two, which might not be outright terrible but it compounds over decades. Add the fact that very few people do some physically intense activities regularly (ideally daily). Hence the current results.

The simple fact is, most rich quickly realize that they can lead pretty awesome lives if they want to, and the motivation to keep this state for as long as possible is strong. So most of them lead actually pretty healthy lifestyles. It just doesn't make good headlines.

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Post by narag »

timthelion wrote: post #83
narag wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is actually very rare for dictatorships to turn into democracies. In the last half century give or take some years, half of Europe and Latin America nations have successfully and peacefully made this transition. And only Venezuela has returned to dictatorship. Do you think Putin will ever be overthrown? No idea. Formal democracy is still in place, so there's hope.

But recorded history in Europe goes back some 3000 years.

Universal suffrage is as recent as 1906, and only for male voters was introduced in American and French revolutions. So with some back and forth, (modern, real) democracy has been steadly advancing since it was born two centuries ago, with a much clearer trend last half century.

Re: Anti-aging stem cell treatment proves successful in early human trials

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Post by platz »

pravbeatle wrote: post #28
faltad wrote: post #10

This comment on reddit (and all the subchildren) shines a different light on that study: https://www.reddit.com/r/science/comments/78f3wg/antiaging_s...

Death as important as Birth when it comes to life. We only want to keep living because of sentience. If you really cared about humanity, you wouldn't impede death. It would lead to serious fragmentation of the human population with people from generations ago still alive. Not to mention the collapse of economic structures many of which are based on young v old generation. Apart from that hundreds of generations compe…

feel free to let yourself pass away the next time you get sick... or will you impede death, by taking some medicine?

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Post by jack9 »

pravbeatle wrote: post #28
faltad wrote: post #10

This comment on reddit (and all the subchildren) shines a different light on that study: https://www.reddit.com/r/science/comments/78f3wg/antiaging_s...

Death as important as Birth when it comes to life. We only want to keep living because of sentience. If you really cared about humanity, you wouldn't impede death. It would lead to serious fragmentation of the human population with people from generations ago still alive. Not to mention the collapse of economic structures many of which are based on young v old generation. Apart from that hundreds of generations compe…

> If you really cared about humanity, you wouldn't impede death.

That's an ideology masquerading as wisdom.

Re: Anti-aging stem cell treatment proves successful in early human trials

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Post by datawarrior »

bamboozled wrote: post #32
timthelion wrote: post #24

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Imagine a world in which Xi, Kim Jong *, and a host of other wealthy dictators were immortal, and the rest of us pee-ons were not. I believe that is the future of high tech immortality.

I've been thinking about this lately too, it almost feels like we're here already. I often read stories about innocent younger people dying from something tragic; However, why do I almost never wake up to, " has unexpectedly and peacefully passed away in their sleep?" Brave new world I guess?

Robert Mugabe is an example of this.

Re: Anti-aging stem cell treatment proves successful in early human trials

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Post by knodi123 »

yAnonymous wrote: post #46
erikj wrote: post #39

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They can still be shot in the face, stem cells won't help them with that.

Artificial body parts and a backup of the mind on USB...

Mind backups do nothing for me. Imagine if your airplane ran out of fuel over the ocean. You're going to crash and die, so you get on the radio, and air traffic control says "don't worry, your estate already restored a backup of your mind into a cloned body. just go ahead and plow into the water at full speed, the new you is already awake and seems happy and comfortable."

Would you think "whew, I really dodged a bullet there", or would you think "fuck that clone, I don't want to die!" ?

Re: Anti-aging stem cell treatment proves successful in early human trials

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Post by 0xdeadbeefbabe »

sleepychu wrote: post #47
bamboozled wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been thinking about this lately too, it almost feels like we're here already. I often read stories about innocent younger people dying from something tragic; However, why do I almost never wake up to, " has unexpectedly and peacefully passed away in their sleep?" Brave new world I guess?

Lots of innocent young people, not many dictators

The dictators started out innocent and young too.

Re: Anti-aging stem cell treatment proves successful in early human trials

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Post by mcgarnagle »

timthelion wrote: post #49
mcgarnagle wrote: post #33

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I don't think immortal is the right word here. You can still die from physical harm, no matter how many stem cells you consume. So in theory if someone abused the pee-ons for enough time, probably one of them would get mad enough to overthrow the power. Just like many revolutions throughout history.

Most dynasties in history were overthrown by competing heirs, not the people. It is actually very rare for dictatorships to turn into democracies. Many reigns only end in death. Do you think Putin will ever be overthrown?

No, because he: a) has a very high approval rating, b) minimized a lot of corruption problems for Russia where people were stealing absolutely everywhere after the soviet collapse c) does not commit humanitarian crimes
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