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Anti-aging stem cell treatment proves successful in early human trials

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Re: Anti-aging stem cell treatment proves successful in early human trials

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

you're welcome to die whenever you want, just don't speak for the rest of us.

Imagine a world in which Xi, Kim Jong *, and a host of other wealthy dictators were immortal, and the rest of us pee-ons were not. I believe that is the future of high tech immortality.

I've been thinking about this lately too, it almost feels like we're here already.

I often read stories about innocent younger people dying from something tragic; However, why do I almost never wake up to, " has unexpectedly and peacefully passed away in their sleep?"

Brave new world I guess?

Re: Anti-aging stem cell treatment proves successful in early human trials

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post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

you're welcome to die whenever you want, just don't speak for the rest of us.

Imagine a world in which Xi, Kim Jong *, and a host of other wealthy dictators were immortal, and the rest of us pee-ons were not. I believe that is the future of high tech immortality.

I don't think immortal is the right word here. You can still die from physical harm, no matter how many stem cells you consume. So in theory if someone abused the pee-ons for enough time, probably one of them would get mad enough to overthrow the power. Just like many revolutions throughout history.

Re: Anti-aging stem cell treatment proves successful in early human trials

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post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

you're welcome to die whenever you want, just don't speak for the rest of us.

Imagine a world in which Xi, Kim Jong *, and a host of other wealthy dictators were immortal, and the rest of us pee-ons were not. I believe that is the future of high tech immortality.

We can't all live forever. The Soylent Green factory needs "volunteers" 24/7.

Re: Anti-aging stem cell treatment proves successful in early human trials

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As others pointed out this study may not be scientifically conclusive and I am not in a position to comment on that. What strikes me is our lack of preparedness for advances is anti-aging treatments that will inevitably come. Even adding as little as 20 years to the average lifespan will have enormous (devastating?) implications for the economy and society. Especially if the treatment will be expensive and not availa…

> I have not noticed any urgency regarding the consequences of anti-aging medicine. Because that medicine is usually a hoax of some sort. Saying that, people are living longer and longer, and changes are being made to prepare for that. More people = more houses and jobs. In the UK having a pension is mandatory now etc

More interested in no pensions but 3 day work weeks and 2 months vacation.

Re: Anti-aging stem cell treatment proves successful in early human trials

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post #10

This comment on reddit (and all the subchildren) shines a different light on that study: https://www.reddit.com/r/science/comments/78f3wg/antiaging_s...

Let's hope he's right. Life is a cycle and without death the world will be a very boring place.

Oh I'm sure there will be companies that provide a right to die for reasonable price (sized about 70-80 year salary I guess).

Pity I'm not a writer, I think it is a good idea for anti-utopia about the world where people work to get a permission to die.

Re: Anti-aging stem cell treatment proves successful in early human trials

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post #12
post #10

This comment on reddit (and all the subchildren) shines a different light on that study: https://www.reddit.com/r/science/comments/78f3wg/antiaging_s...

Let's hope he's right. Life is a cycle and without death the world will be a very boring place.

Anti-aging: Slowing down or stopping aging process Anti-death: Allowing to live forever Not the same

Re: Anti-aging stem cell treatment proves successful in early human trials

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post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

you're welcome to die whenever you want, just don't speak for the rest of us.

Imagine a world in which Xi, Kim Jong *, and a host of other wealthy dictators were immortal, and the rest of us pee-ons were not. I believe that is the future of high tech immortality.

They can still be shot in the face, stem cells won't help them with that.

Re: Anti-aging stem cell treatment proves successful in early human trials

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post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

you're welcome to die whenever you want, just don't speak for the rest of us.

A better way to put is that, without death we wouldn't have progressed as a race as much as we have done. We need new people with fresh ideas to come to top, take higher roles and make radical decisions. People living longer will stay in power longer and keep the status quo alive. In a longer stretch, conservationism, which grows like age, is an impediment for innovation and progress, IMHO.

I'm not sure about this argument. You could manage the issue in other ways eg enforced fixed terms for jobs.

Also, it's difficult to predict how immortality would affect human psychology, let alone how the technology would work. Perhaps we will be able to 'freeze' someone in their mid to late twenties, at some optimal point of physical health, maturity and risk taking behaviour.

I personally don't think we can take the very old and keep them alive forever. This will almost certainly result in a permanently sick state requiring constant therapy to maintain. The chance of getting cancer will approach unity at some point. Not exactly the ideal of immortal youth.

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