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Anti-aging stem cell treatment proves successful in early human trials

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Re: Anti-aging stem cell treatment proves successful in early human trials

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A better way to put is that, without death we wouldn't have progressed as a race as much as we have done. We need new people with fresh ideas to come to top, take higher roles and make radical decisions. People living longer will stay in power longer and keep the status quo alive. In a longer stretch, conservationism, which grows like age, is an impediment for innovation and progress, IMHO.

could you consider the notion, that all the progress and innovation impediments you link to age-related conservatism are actually at least partly related to the disease of aging itself? how would that change your opinion?

Only partly agree. Even adults are very conservative. A bunch of forever-40 wouldn't work very well. Luckily this can be fixed. Experimental brain plasticity drugs also increases forgetfulness, which is what we really want. Knowing the old ways of doing things means that new ways won't be explored.

Re: Anti-aging stem cell treatment proves successful in early human trials

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As others pointed out this study may not be scientifically conclusive and I am not in a position to comment on that. What strikes me is our lack of preparedness for advances is anti-aging treatments that will inevitably come. Even adding as little as 20 years to the average lifespan will have enormous (devastating?) implications for the economy and society. Especially if the treatment will be expensive and not availa…

If this turns out to be more effective for younger people - it would decrease the number of people becoming care-seekers, rather than increase them.

Re: Anti-aging stem cell treatment proves successful in early human trials

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you're welcome to die whenever you want, just don't speak for the rest of us.

Imagine a world in which Xi, Kim Jong *, and a host of other wealthy dictators were immortal, and the rest of us pee-ons were not. I believe that is the future of high tech immortality.

Well the current Kim is 3rd in his line, so clearly they die.

And clearly death doesn't end the dictatorship.

Re: Anti-aging stem cell treatment proves successful in early human trials

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If you google stem cells + you can find research for almost any disease, can anyone explain in simple terms, what is so magical in stem cells therapy?

My layman's understanding is that stem cells have not yet 'differentiated' into a specialised cell type which makes them useful for many different types of treatments.

Edit: so you can use them to create "healthy" versions of whatever you need.

Re: Anti-aging stem cell treatment proves successful in early human trials

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Imagine a world in which Xi, Kim Jong *, and a host of other wealthy dictators were immortal, and the rest of us pee-ons were not. I believe that is the future of high tech immortality.

They can still be shot in the face, stem cells won't help them with that.

Artificial body parts and a backup of the mind on USB...

Re: Anti-aging stem cell treatment proves successful in early human trials

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Imagine a world in which Xi, Kim Jong *, and a host of other wealthy dictators were immortal, and the rest of us pee-ons were not. I believe that is the future of high tech immortality.

I've been thinking about this lately too, it almost feels like we're here already. I often read stories about innocent younger people dying from something tragic; However, why do I almost never wake up to, " has unexpectedly and peacefully passed away in their sleep?" Brave new world I guess?

Lots of innocent young people, not many dictators

Re: Anti-aging stem cell treatment proves successful in early human trials

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Let's hope he's right. Life is a cycle and without death the world will be a very boring place.

Anti-aging: Slowing down or stopping aging process Anti-death: Allowing to live forever Not the same

But... Who would benefit from living longer? Even in European countries where everyone has a health care insurance - it would be too expensive to give everyone who gets older and more fragile with this treatment. So? The richer you are, the longer you'll live?

Re: Anti-aging stem cell treatment proves successful in early human trials

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Imagine a world in which Xi, Kim Jong *, and a host of other wealthy dictators were immortal, and the rest of us pee-ons were not. I believe that is the future of high tech immortality.

I don't think immortal is the right word here. You can still die from physical harm, no matter how many stem cells you consume. So in theory if someone abused the pee-ons for enough time, probably one of them would get mad enough to overthrow the power. Just like many revolutions throughout history.

Most dynasties in history were overthrown by competing heirs, not the people. It is actually very rare for dictatorships to turn into democracies. Many reigns only end in death. Do you think Putin will ever be overthrown?
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