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Re: Try quickly typing 1+ 2 + 3 into the iOS 11 Calculator

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Post by jmull »

cocktailpeanuts wrote: post #412
jmull wrote: post #382

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Many of your problems are not the common ones that people are having with iOS 11. And even ones like 2. which many people are having sounds more extreme for you. I think you might want to debug this like a problem rather than assume it’s all due to Apple errors. With all that’s going on I’d probably just jump all the way to a full restore.

Come on man, you don't have to go that far. just read rest of the thread and you'll see tons of people complaining about the same thing. As I mentioned I have multiple devices and I observe these problems everywhere. And I have heard the same from friends too. And all these people on this thread are complaining about it. Now where is your source on how my problem is just some extreme case and my own fault?

Well, I have iOS 11 on multiple devices and have friends with iOS 11 and I’m seeing (and hearing about) launch lag and the calculator button problem but not your other issues. So this isn’t simply an iOS 11 problem you can do nothing about besides complain on the internet.

I mean, if that’s what you prefer to do, be my guest. I don’t mind at all. I’m just pointing out you might be able to do something about some of the problems.

Also, I didn’t say it was your fault. I get that you’re frustrated, but it doesn’t help to get angry, especially with people who are trying to help you.

Re: Try quickly typing 1+ 2 + 3 into the iOS 11 Calculator

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Post by lcnmrn »

pjmlp wrote: post #292
ignoramous wrote: post #273

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This shows how important UX really is. UI can be all glam and shiny, but the software with the most accessible of UX wins, more often than not. I always come back to the example of WhatsApp and how it took on SMS, IM, and emails and won. People claiming WhatsApp went in mobile first are getting it only partially right. WhatsApp defined itself as a replacement for SMS: No login passwords, no chat history, cross platfo…

> Similar thing for AMP pages: It just works and it is blazing fast. It is already blazing fast with only HTML and CSS, as the Web was designed to be. EDIT: typo

Add some async JavaScript to onclick, onchange, etc. events.

Re: Try quickly typing 1+ 2 + 3 into the iOS 11 Calculator

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Post by sixothree »

FreezerburnV wrote: post #355
coldtea wrote: post #320

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You mean the iPhone 4 antenna non-issue? Lots of bugs and issues happened under Jobs, but this was the usual press BS. The iPhone 4 went on to sell 50 millions of devices or so with that antenna and nobody in the real world had much of an issue with it.

No it definitely existed. I got a 4, and it was not uncommon to go from a perfectly fine phone call, to a dropped phone call until I got a case.

And it was such a perfect phone to use without case.

Re: Try quickly typing 1+ 2 + 3 into the iOS 11 Calculator

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Post by boterock »

vostrocity wrote: post #267
balls187 wrote: post #169

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Interesting. Bored before bed so ran a quick test using my iphone7 and Ios 11.x, Google's stopwatch. The time from wake to photo was ~2seconds (using the lockscreen short cut). The time from wake to home screen photo app to photo was ~5 seconds. * I had to start the timer myself then go back to using the phone so I believe I could cut ~500ms. Since I have Live Photo enabled, the 2-second shots actually have a few fra…

I really miss Samsung's 'double-click home button to use camera' on the Galaxy S6 and S7. Probably the most convenient implementation of a camera shortcut I've seen.

I like the Motorola double twist for camera gesture, you can start the gesture just as you take it out of your pocket.

Re: Try quickly typing 1+ 2 + 3 into the iOS 11 Calculator

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Post by ballenf »

cocktailpeanuts wrote: post #412
jmull wrote: post #382

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Many of your problems are not the common ones that people are having with iOS 11. And even ones like 2. which many people are having sounds more extreme for you. I think you might want to debug this like a problem rather than assume it’s all due to Apple errors. With all that’s going on I’d probably just jump all the way to a full restore.

Come on man, you don't have to go that far. just read rest of the thread and you'll see tons of people complaining about the same thing. As I mentioned I have multiple devices and I observe these problems everywhere. And I have heard the same from friends too. And all these people on this thread are complaining about it. Now where is your source on how my problem is just some extreme case and my own fault?

The 50% crash rate on your apps is what made me feel like your experience is the exception not the rule.

On my iPhone 6 I see maybe a crash rate of 2-5% (one in 20-50). There are apps with higher crash rates from time to time that usually get fixed with updates. I don't try to run the latest demanding 3d games and such on the phone, since I don't expect them to be usable on a 3-year-old device.

Maybe you're pushing your devices harder than I do or something but I second the parent's sentiment that your experience is out of the ordinary. But that doesn't mean it's your fault at all, just unusual.

All that being said, I'm overall less happy with iOS 11 than 10 on my phone. But love it on the iPad.

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Post by JustSomeNobody »

ekzy wrote: post #347
dvt wrote: post #300

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Was going to upgrade to an iPhone X. After this iOS 11 nonsense, I'm honestly considering going back to Android. It's absolutely unforgivable how terrible my iPhone 6S has been running since the update. Same as you: constant crashes, random freezes and reboots, abysmal battery life, not to mention an insane bug where when someone calls you (or you call them), they can't hear you and you can't hear them. This bug pers…

Same here. My 6S quite often freezes. I also sometimes have a network problem that I never had before, no internet connection at all even when I have a full 4G signal, and I have to reboot the phone. Does anyone else experience this issue?

I have a 6S. I suggest doing a DFU and set up as new.

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Post by kalleboo »

balls187 wrote: post #169
kalleboo wrote: post #133

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The worst thing for me is the Camera. If I want to take a photo of something that's just happening I don't even bother anymore since I can expect it to take 10 seconds to wake the phone, get into the camera, and have the shutter button respond and have it actually take a photo (sometimes it looks like it took a photo but it actually didn't save!).

Interesting. Bored before bed so ran a quick test using my iphone7 and Ios 11.x, Google's stopwatch. The time from wake to photo was ~2seconds (using the lockscreen short cut). The time from wake to home screen photo app to photo was ~5 seconds. * I had to start the timer myself then go back to using the phone so I believe I could cut ~500ms. Since I have Live Photo enabled, the 2-second shots actually have a few fra…

If I try it several times in a row it's quick, since presumably everything is cached in memory. If I've been doing other stuff and pick my phone up hours later (exactly when I want that split-second shot of my kid or the license plate of the car that almost ran over me), that's when the phone and camera take ages to get ready.

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Post by solatic »

jaredklewis wrote: post #282
laichzeit0 wrote: post #228

Let's just be frank: If Jobs was in charge, everyone that remotely touched that app would pulled into a room, berated and told how fucking dumb they are, and told to pack their shit and find another job. Remember, he was obsessive about the first calculator app and hand-tuned it to his liking, so it's not hyperbole to suggest that he would be fucking livvid. [1] Asshole, but perfection requires assholes. Apple is reg…

Are you a programmer? If so, is not getting yelled at what motivates you to write good software?

Define "getting yelled at".

Nobody is defending management which abuses employees for failing to meet quality standards. But yelling at employees is not the only way to indicate disapproval of work which does not meet quality standards, and the fact that Apple has not been maintaining quality standards is a black stain on current management that Steve Jobs never would have allowed in his company.

Apple shouldn't model Jobs's management style and go back to yelling at workers, but its entire corporate ethos depends on keeping Jobs's quality standards. If those standards are gone then Apple's brand will surely die.

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Post by kemayo »

osteele wrote: post #310
realityking wrote: post #220

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They‘re listed on the App Store but they‘re fake listings. Removing a core app from the home screen does not remove it from the device. Installing it from the App Store restores that link. That means updates still need to be a part of a system update.

In iOS 10, reinstalling the News or Calculator apps was instant. In iOS 11, the App Store list sizes for these apps, and reinstalling them takes a few seconds (on my phone and connection). I haven’t measured data usage, but I suspect this means that removing Calculator’s icon actually removes its code from the system. If that is true, it is potentially upgradeable independent of the iOS system, at least from a techni…

That's interesting! I hadn't noticed the change. As you say, it's probably not relevant until Apple can actually release a single-app update through that channel, but it might be a glimpse at a future where that's an option.

Re: Try quickly typing 1+ 2 + 3 into the iOS 11 Calculator

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Post by kalleboo »

vostrocity wrote: post #267
balls187 wrote: post #169

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Interesting. Bored before bed so ran a quick test using my iphone7 and Ios 11.x, Google's stopwatch. The time from wake to photo was ~2seconds (using the lockscreen short cut). The time from wake to home screen photo app to photo was ~5 seconds. * I had to start the timer myself then go back to using the phone so I believe I could cut ~500ms. Since I have Live Photo enabled, the 2-second shots actually have a few fra…

I really miss Samsung's 'double-click home button to use camera' on the Galaxy S6 and S7. Probably the most convenient implementation of a camera shortcut I've seen.

I miss my Sony Ericsson that had an actual shutter button you could hold down to activate the camera from sleep.
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