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Try quickly typing 1+ 2 + 3 into the iOS 11 Calculator
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#132Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Are they cheaper? Not generally, by neither are they more expensive generally. However, there's a large section of consumers that see that sort of thing and somehow assume it means the product is of higher quality, or that's what comes up in the marketing meetings I've had to sit through whilst advocating for mechanical switches.
They are definitely cheaper most of the time. They are often just a trace on a PCB. Product designers hate mechanical switches because they are almost always the first thing to wear out. Including a switch robust enough to last as long as the rest of the product is generally too expensive for consumer electronics. Capacitive buttons can be made much better with some kind of instant feedback to replace the tactile fee…
Yeah, a lot of microcontrollers have integrated capacitive sensing (Atmel calls it QTouch, other manufacturers have similar). In that case a capacitive button is very near free, as you only need an extra trace that is reliable to fabricate and requires minimal extra soldering.
Capacitive buttons have some distinct advantages too, primarily being waterproof and nearly infinite durability. A lot of UI issues like OPs stove are likely poor software, there is no real reason why a capacitive button would need a 700 ms pause between actions. Now, the lack of tactile feedback is a more fundamental problem sometimes, but capacitive buttons can be great when implemented well.
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#133As soon as I upgraded my 6s to 11, I saw performance seriously degrade. It takes -seconds- to bring up the iMessage editor. My immediate thought was that Apple had liberally sprinkled wait() into the iOS 11 code base so that I'd feel like my ole A9 CPU just wasn't cutting it any more and I'd realize, as they do, it's time to upgrade. Or... maybe they are running every key stroke through the new Azure-enabled Cray com…
The worst thing for me is the Camera. If I want to take a photo of something that's just happening I don't even bother anymore since I can expect it to take 10 seconds to wake the phone, get into the camera, and have the shutter button respond and have it actually take a photo (sometimes it looks like it took a photo but it actually didn't save!).
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#134Earlier quoted context omitted.
>>As soon as I upgraded my 6s to 11, I saw performance seriously degrade. It takes -seconds- to bring up the iMessage editor. THIS! My exact experience and sentiment. The lag frustrates me every time I open almost any app (and then I get frustrated with myself for letting myself succumb to such a first-world-problem) Is there any recourse? Can we disable some animations or other unnecessary features in settings? Can…
Just googled, found this... "Some reddit users claim that resetting their settings (Settings --> General ---> Reset --> Reset All Settings) fixed all of the app issues, while others have restored their devices and set it up as new to solve the problem. Others have backed up and restored and had better results." https://www.macrumors.com/2017/09/25/ios-11-app-slowdowns-pe...
I did a backup and complete restore. It went from completely unusable to annoyingly usable. Still considering downgrading to 10.3
Re: Try quickly typing 1+ 2 + 3 into the iOS 11 Calculator
#135As soon as I upgraded my 6s to 11, I saw performance seriously degrade. It takes -seconds- to bring up the iMessage editor. My immediate thought was that Apple had liberally sprinkled wait() into the iOS 11 code base so that I'd feel like my ole A9 CPU just wasn't cutting it any more and I'd realize, as they do, it's time to upgrade. Or... maybe they are running every key stroke through the new Azure-enabled Cray com…
>>Or... maybe they are running every key stroke through the new Azure-enabled Cray computers to better predict what I am going to type so that overall, my typing is more efficient and I'm actually spending less time typing... The typing on iOS 11 in all apps is absolutely abysmal. What the hell is going on?
On an iPhone 6, if you type quickly, AUTOCApitalization lags and doesn't switch off until after 4-5 characters, which is absolutely mindboggling. The system obviously knows you've typed more than one char, is this thing multithreaded in the extreme?!
Re: Try quickly typing 1+ 2 + 3 into the iOS 11 Calculator
#136Earlier quoted context omitted.
They are definitely cheaper most of the time. They are often just a trace on a PCB. Product designers hate mechanical switches because they are almost always the first thing to wear out. Including a switch robust enough to last as long as the rest of the product is generally too expensive for consumer electronics. Capacitive buttons can be made much better with some kind of instant feedback to replace the tactile fee…
Yeah, a lot of microcontrollers have integrated capacitive sensing (Atmel calls it QTouch, other manufacturers have similar). In that case a capacitive button is very near free, as you only need an extra trace that is reliable to fabricate and requires minimal extra soldering. Capacitive buttons have some distinct advantages too, primarily being waterproof and nearly infinite durability. A lot of UI issues like OPs s…
Capacitive also has some drawbacks. Like with this oven... They tend to be temperature sensitive, depending on shielding. Delays with QTouch aren't unusual above 120F.
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#137Remember when Steve Jobs introduced Snow Leopard as a stability/maintenance release without much in the way of new shiny features? Maybe Apple can revisit that idea. Aside from bugs, don't even get me started on the giant fucking labels in the iOS 11 mail app telling me which folder I'm in....
That's what both El Capitan and High Sierra have been sold as on the Mac, so it's not as if Apple has forgotten the tactic. On iOS they have too much competition from Android to take a step back like that.
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#138I'm feeling extremely uncomfortable looking at these kinds of regressions. There's probably some Boeing/NASA engineer pulling out his iPhone and making "simple" but potentially dangerous back-of-the-envelope calculations like this. We already solved the calculator many decades ago, then brought it into many portable devices, the first iPhone and now we see a broken version of it on iOS 11.
That is what really astonishes me about technology: Stuff can get worse. As you said, it is a solved problem, but unless someone somewhere is pushing hard, it will keep getting worse. People in charge make stupid decisions and the creators probably don't care because calculators are unsexy. Next thing we know, there is a billion dollar startup with a calculator app because the current ones are so shitty.
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#139The calculator in Windows 10 got a similar "upgrade". It now has a loading screen that eats keystrokes. The Windows 7 just launched instantly and took 10% the RAM and threads (seriously, the Win10 calc.exe has 28 threads!) It would be one thing if these companies were making greenfield apps and choose Electron to make their calculator app. But both Apple and Microsoft had perfectly functional calculator apps before,…
I was very annoyed with this. Then I chanced to use my wife's laptop. And Win10 was absolutely flying on it. No keystroke misses, no launch lag. I have since concluded that Win10 is impossible to run properly on a spinning drive. You must have an SSD. I once r4ead that the reason Vista was such an utter dog on old machines was because Microsoft dev machines were too highly spec'd. I guess the same has happened with W…
Can confirm. I run W10 on my gaming machine, which still has a spinning drive. I cannot believe how frustrated I get every single time I use it. An operation as simple as opening the Windows menu and searching for an app can take up to 20 seconds.
What a waste of time.
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#140Given that they managed to break volume control for iPhone 7 users like me (other versions too?), this isn't surprising in the least. Volume control mostly works now (11.0.3). However, half the time now it'll show the volume changing, but the actual audio output will be unchanged (may be an app issue, happens mostly with WhatsApp voice calls, but have had it happen some with the built-in Music app, not as reliably flawed there).
I'm still rebooting every couple days to keep bluetooth working reliably with my car. Maybe by 11.1 I can tell my sister and parents that it's safe to upgrade.