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Try quickly typing 1+ 2 + 3 into the iOS 11 Calculator

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Re: Try quickly typing 1+ 2 + 3 into the iOS 11 Calculator

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Post by mdemare »

michaelmrose wrote: post #194
threeseed wrote: post #144

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This is revisionist drivel. Every year it's always "Apple is dying" as they continue to siphon money from every industry they touch. They are about to push a tonne of users into a higher price point with the iPhone X. The Apple Watch is an unquestionable success. We are on the precipice of seeing an ARM based MacBook based on their incredible work with A-series chips. They are also strategically very well placed with…

Do we even have sales figures for the apple watch. All I see is made up numbers and guesses.

Apple said they're bigger than Rolex in revenue.

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Post by WA »

kirubakaran wrote: post #42

Do people really need that kind of accuracy? Are you launching rockets or something? The answers are close enough for regular people and more importantly, the animation is beautiful. If you want such insane accuracy, perhaps you're not Apple's target market. /s

Remember: this comes from a company that is obsessed with design and has guidelines how other people must design their apps for their store.

Messing up their own apps leaves a bad taste.

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Post by ignoramous »

kemayo wrote: post #53

People are talking about "lag" and performance, as if this was a "the system can't handle it!" issue. This is a misleading description. The actual issue is that some developer at Apple screwed up their animation configuration when implementing the calculator redesign, and nobody tested adding more than two numbers together quickly. Multiple failures, none involving system performance. What's happening is: the operato…

This shows how important UX really is. UI can be all glam and shiny, but the software with the most accessible of UX wins, more often than not.

I always come back to the example of WhatsApp and how it took on SMS, IM, and emails and won. People claiming WhatsApp went in mobile first are getting it only partially right. WhatsApp defined itself as a replacement for SMS: No login passwords, no chat history, cross platform and that led to them being cheaper, better, faster, frictionless. Later added MMS-esque capabilities like media and then email-esque features like Groups with super nice execution on the UX front.

Similar thing for AMP pages: It just works and it is blazing fast.

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Post by orloffm »

Spare_account wrote: post #244
dvfjsdhgfv wrote: post #226

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Unfortunately, this is a sad but regular scenario now. It doesn't matter whether Apple does it on purpose or simply doesn't care, but new versions of iOS degrade the performance of older devices (an in this case "older" doesn't necessarily mean "very old"). Some people simply choose not to upgrade, but this may have security implications - and in any case sooner or later you'll come across an app you need that doesn'…

Is there any definitive evidence for this? Has anyone benchmarked devices before and after upgrades to prove it? Edit: I don't mean CPU benchmarking which has been discussed elsewhere in this thread. More like usability testing, sequences of actions not invoking new OS features where possible, and also a second set of tests using new OS features because that's what most people's experience would be.

It's difficult to achieve because one cannot downgrade a device to some older version. So when 3GS became insanely slow with updates, no one could at random get a device with an old OS version.

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Post by todd8 »

hasenj wrote: post #208
michaelmrose wrote: post #194

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Do we even have sales figures for the apple watch. All I see is made up numbers and guesses.

I never noticed anyone anywhere wearing an apple watch. Not that I spend any time looking at people's wrists, but you'd think if it was a massive success everyone would notice.

They are very common here in Austin. The woman working at the counter in the Post Office wears one and the last couple of doctors I've visited wear them. How common are they? I'm not sure. The fact that they have a distinctive appearance makes them much easier to identify than other watches since the other watch companies make so many models.

It would be interesting to see the geographic distribution; I was in Delaware a two years ago and used mine to pay for my purchases at a Bookstore and everyone was quite surprised--they were unaware of the active Apple Pay feature on their own point of sales terminals.

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Post by vostrocity »

IncRnd wrote: post #38

The software quality of Apple products that I use has fallen significantly in the past few years. Updates slow down my phone, every single update, as well as introducing errors like this or where I double tap home to change applications and instead get a blur on the screen. Desktop OS updates have incrementally slowed down the computers, notably since Mavericks (and even earlier), so ever-slower desktops are actually…

I still use Mavericks for personal stuff. Ditched iOS for MIUI (more polished than iOS these days).

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Post by zecg »

ship_it wrote: post #252
laichzeit0 wrote: post #228

Let's just be frank: If Jobs was in charge, everyone that remotely touched that app would pulled into a room, berated and told how fucking dumb they are, and told to pack their shit and find another job. Remember, he was obsessive about the first calculator app and hand-tuned it to his liking, so it's not hyperbole to suggest that he would be fucking livvid. [1] Asshole, but perfection requires assholes. Apple is reg…

> perfection requires assholes? Wait, wat? How?

To get the shit out, I presume.

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Post by gruturo »

blowski wrote: post #129
teej wrote: post #55

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I hate to be this guy but Steve Jobs would have fucking eviscerated the team that produced this. The first time he used the calculator and got 24 instead of 6, he would’ve walked straight to whoever wrote the software and gotten it fixed. There’s no one at Apple who can do that anymore.

And I get to be that guy in response. I don’t like the sanctification of Steve Jobs. He oversaw plenty of bugs - “antennagate” being the most famous, but there were plenty of others as well.

And Antennagate resulted in Jobs demanding the head of SVP Mark Papermaster - which actually proves your point: he took swift and decisive action (no, I'm not talking about the public-facing discussion trying to minimize the issue - obviously, internally, there was agreement that this was a very real issue, hence the free bumpers and the redesign in the following model, but most importantly the canning of the SVP who oversaw a fuckup this egregious - it's not like it was a subtle or super unlikely corner case).

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Post by gruturo »

Nition wrote: post #25
veidr wrote: post #6

"Jony wants you to take time and appreciate the simplicity of the slowly dimming animations. Or we’re just using it wrong." Apple has lots of issues like this, in iOS and macOS, where they choose visual appeal over functionality, or where animation impedes usability. This is a pretty sad bug, though. My (very expensive, "high-end") Japanese induction stove has a similar issue. Its capacitive touch controls take just…

Capacitive buttons are a plague, man. Even the cheap new stoves have them now. Monitors and TVs have had them for a while. Cars are going for touch displays. There's a delay, they don't work every time, and you can't feel them out. Are they cheaper? I don't understand the point of them in the cases where they're literally just replacing a real button. The worst is when they don't even indicate clearly where the butto…

I find them extremely practical on my induction stove: it's a single perfectly smooth glass surface, which makes it a joy to clean. Physical buttons (or any 3-D feature really) and food preparation make cleaning a hassle.
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